On 09/30/2015 04:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 30.09.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Orion Poplawski:
On 09/30/2015 07:45 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
Yes, I also see this as a good compromise.
We then have the ability to at least track bundling.

I'd just like to point out that we have always had the requirement for
package that bundled libraries to carry the "Provides: bundled(libname)"
metadata.  What's new here is not needing to go through the FPC to get
an exception.  Which perhaps leads to people not declaring their
packages bundled libraries.

how do you come to that conclusion?

people not declaring their bundles and not care about policies did the
same before: not declare it and not ask for exceptions - there is a
logical flow in "now that i don't need to ask FPC i don't declare it"
Exactly, that's what I would consider a serious regression.

This proposal effectively is a carte-blanche to bundling and carelessness, which I would expect to seriously impact the quality of Fedora.

the opposite is more likely: people trying to avoid the FPC burden now
can declare it without fearing somebody takes notice and points out a
violation
If they don't care or are not aware about the consequences of their bundling?

Like I've said many times before, I feel Fedora needs a serious vulnerability in a widespread bundled or static library, such that people finally comprehend the harm of bundling.

Ralf

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