On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:53 PM, NoiseEHC <noise...@freemail.hu> wrote: > > Eben Eliason wrote: >> >> This whole argument, I feel, is fruitless. That's just my opinion, of >> course. >> >> The touchpad isn't readily accessible in handheld mode, and was never >> made to be. I'll continue to suggest that the cursor simply be >> automatically hidden in handheld mode, and that a simple means for >> taking full advantage of the handheld buttons which are present be >> made available to activities in a standardized way. >> > > This argument rests on the wrong assumption that the user can only rotate > the screen in handheld mode. Of course the user can open the laptop as a > book and read it rotated while using the touchpad with one of his thumbs.
I suppose that's true, though I'm not sure I see a benefit to that. My impression of handheld mode is as a means of consuming content (not creating content). I think that the cursor AND the toolbars should hide completely, leaving a fullscreen interface for the pleasurable viewing of the pdf, webpage, image, movie, etc., with nothing else in the way, and basic controls mapped to the buttons. It's a question of need, really. When you're not using the laptop as a laptop, what benefit do you gain from use of the cursor (and/or toolbars)? Let's draw a clear distinction between the modes and make them independently useful, rather than trying to make every button/control/feature work in both. >> A suggestion for how this standardized system might work is laid out >> rather clearly at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Browse#Handheld_Mode. I'd >> very much like to see an API for the press and press-and-hold states >> of these buttons so that activities could take advantage of it easily > > I have read this page but it does not talk about screen rotation at all. > Unfortunately (last time I checked) most of the activities are handling > keyboard focus badly and they usually need some help with the touchpad to > focus to their scrollable area. In handheld mode it means opening the screen > a little bit as david Lang has just said. This is why we need a consistent and easy to follow API (And guidelines) for implementing this mode. ;) If we could make it easy to get right, there wouldn't be a need to build crutches to fall back on. - Eben > A footnote is that this latter touchpad usage conflicts with the one I have > talked about halfway on this page, just imagine it.... :) > > ps: > I would like to hear a similarly interesting conversation about the xvideo > surface and X11 driver, please! > > > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel