On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Eben Eliason wrote:

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM,  <da...@lang.hm> wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Eben Eliason wrote:

This whole argument, I feel, is fruitless.  That's just my opinion, of
course.

The touchpad isn't readily accessible in handheld mode, and was never
made to be.  I'll continue to suggest that the cursor simply be
automatically hidden in handheld mode, and that a simple means for
taking full advantage of the handheld buttons which are present be
made available to activities in a standardized way.

actually, it's pretty easy to lift the screen a bit and hit the touchpad if
you have the screen oriented in portrit rather than landscape (in many ways
it's easier than hitting the game keys)

But /why/?  Can you honestly say that's a desired mode of interaction?
I think proper support of the keys would negate the need for such
clumsiness.

two reasons

first:

if you hold the XO in e-book mode with the handle on the top or bottom the keys are readily accessable.

however if you hold it with the handle on the left or right they are not very accessable.

second, you may want to use the keys for something else and not dedicate them to moving the mouse around.

not all activities in this mode are going to be the same, so the best that you can do is to steal 6 of the 8 keys to simulate the mouse (four for direction, two for the two mouse buttone), that works, but it's not optimal.


one thing that would be very handy would be if the XO could disable the mouse buttons when it detects that it is in e-book mode, as-is it's possible to press a mouse button accidently when holding the machine by that side in e-book mode.

David Lang

- Eben

david Lang

A suggestion for how this standardized system might work is laid out
rather clearly at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Browse#Handheld_Mode.  I'd
very much like to see an API for the press and press-and-hold states
of these buttons so that activities could take advantage of it easily.

- Eben


2009/3/1 NoiseEHC <noise...@freemail.hu>:

Aaron Konstam wrote:

On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 17:06 +0100, NoiseEHC wrote:


Hello!

Just today I have noticed some things about the rotate button (which is
below the directional buttons on the display part):
1. When the screen is rotated the mouse does not so if I turn the XO to
be able to read letters, I cannot navigate with the mouse.


You can navigate but in a sense sideways. Movng the arrow up makes it go
up. But relative to the text it is wrong.


Yeah, just if I turn the laptop to read the text then it is a little bit
impossible to hit anything with the cursor...

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