You are correct that I am confusing things. 12.1.0 os21 has Q4D17 ( http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.75/os/official/12.1.0-21/21021o2.packages.txt ).
13.1.0 os3 has Q4D21 ( http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os3/xo-1.75/31003o2.packages.txt - os1 & os2 also have similar). For some reason I keep ending up off-by-one while trying to parse our new versioning scheme; sorry. On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:41 PM, James Cameron <[email protected]> wrote: > Oops, have I got my versions mixed? I thought it was 12.1.0 (os12) > that shipped with Q4D17, and 13.1.0 (os2/os3) that currently has > Q4D21. > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:37:57PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > > The final version of 13.1.0 (os21) only ships with Q4D17 for XO-1.75 > (Q3C07 for > > XO-1.5, Q2F12 on XO-1). > > > > I am aware that at least one USB glitch (#12034 on XO-1.5) is present in > the > > final release, but given this seemed non-fatal the release freeze was not > > lifted to take a new firmware build. > > > > If you believe updated firmware builds are required if we release a > 13.1.1 > > build (and not just 14.1.0) I would recommend filing a ticket. > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:28 PM, James Cameron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 07:55:28PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 09:28:12 +1000, James Cameron > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > G'day Bruno, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your problem report. It is interesting. > > > > > > I updated the trac ticket with most of what was requested. > > > > Thanks. I'll use the ticket for summary only. > > > > > > The install method hasn't changed. Our development builds are > > > > installed using fs-update rather than the zsp file and holding > > > > four game keys down. Once 13.1.0 is released, the method will be > > > > the same as before. > > > > > > When going to 12.1.0 I held down the four buttons above the power > > > switch while booting. When going to 13.1.0 I used fs-update. I was > > > going by the instructions on the wiki for doing the updates. > > > > Yes, the instructions are different, but they will be the same as > > before ... once 13.1.0 is released. 13.1.0 is not yet released; you > > were using a development build which requires special use of > > fs-update. > > > > > > When you upgraded your XO-1.75 to 12.1.0 an old version of Open > > > > Firmware might have been present. After the upgrade, the next > > > > time you had two sources of power, Open Firmware would have been > > > > upgraded. > > > > > > I also didn't have two sources of power when I did the fs-update to > > > 13.1.0, so maybe that's why the open firmware is still at Q4D17. > > > > Yes. > > > > There is a separate command to upgrade Open Firmware, but the > > operating system boot does this automatically if two sources of power > > are available ... normally at the first boot after upgrade. With > only > > one source of power, it will be delayed until a boot with two sources > > of power. > > > > Holding down the four buttons doesn't upgrade both the operating > > system and the firmware at once, but it does upgrade the operating > > system, and then the operating system upgrades the firmware at the > > first available opportunity. > > > > (In the release notes we ask for two sources of power before using > the > > four game keys method. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0#XO-1.75 ... but for > > development builds we expect users may manage their systems > > differently.) > > > > Using fs-update to upgrade the operating system should eventually > > cause the firmware to upgrade. If this isn't happening with two > > sources of power, it is a separate problem we should investigate. > > > > > > a. what version of Open Firmware was on the XO-1.75 before the > > > > upgrade to 12.1.0? I cannot guess what this was. > > > > > > I don't know, but probably whatever you were shipping with the > > > devices a few weeks ago. Mine shipped shortly before 12.1.0 was > > > released. > > > > Thanks. I acknowledge you don't know what version worked with your > > USB drive before the upgrade. > > > > Please provide the serial number, so that I can take a guess at a > > minimum firmware version. Please also use the .mfg-data command at > > the ok prompt and look for the BV tag, which should list the base > > firmware version used. .mfg-data also displays the SN or serial > > number tag. > > > > > > b. what version of Open Firmware was on the XO-1.75 at the time > > > > of the problem in ticket #12123? I expect it was Q4D17 as this > > > > was 12.1.0 build 21 contained. > > > > > > I can reproduce the issue on Q4D17. > > > > Good, thanks. > > > > > > c. what version of Open Firmware is on the XO-1.75 after the > > > > upgrade to 13.1.0? I expect it will be Q4D21. > > > > > > It is still Q4D17. > > > > > > > d. if you downgrade to the version of Open Firmware you had > > > > before the upgrade to 12.1.0, and then try the fs-update for > > > > 13.1.0, does the problem in ticket #12123 occur? > > > > > > I can't refer to u: successfully if I don't plug in the drive after > > > booting. > > > > > > > e. on Q4D21 please attach the USB drive, turn on the laptop, get > > > > to the ok prompt, type p2, and tell me what is printed. > > > > > > I haven't got Q4D21 yet, so I can't do these tests just yet. > > > > > > > f. on Q4D21 please detach the USB drive, turn on the laptop, get > > > > to the ok prompt, type p2, and tell me what is printed. > > > > > > > > g. on Q4D21 please attach the USB drive, turn on the laptop, get > > > > to the ok prompt, type > > > > > > There were differences for the p2 command under Q4D17 depending on > > > whether the drive was plugged in before or after boot. > > > > Your p2 and scan-subtree output shows that the device does not > respond > > to probes if it was already plugged in when the laptop powered on. > > This seems like a power on or reset problem for the drive. > > > > Please test if this is a new behaviour of your USB drive, or a new > > behaviour of Open Firmware. Downgrade to Q4D03, or if a later > version > > is listed in the BV tag downgrade to that, and test again with the > USB > > drive. You can find download links and instructions to downgrade at > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware > > > > Please test if we have already fixed this problem. Upgrade to Q4D21 > > and test again with the USB drive. > > > > Please test the other two USB ports on the laptop, in case there is > an > > electrical problem with the port you usually use. > > > > > > 2. the drive must spin up and become ready (if it is a mechanical > > > > drive this can take some seconds), > > > > > > In my case it's a flash drive. (I reformtted it to ext4.) > > > > Thanks. I have tested with a USB flash drive and a USB powered desk > > lamp. The power is briefly turned on, then off for a few seconds, > > then on just before the probe. > > > > It seems unlikely, but it is possible, that your USB flash drive does > > not like the brief power pulse. > > > > Please test with a powered hub. Connect the hub to the laptop. > > Connect power to the hub. Connect the flash drive to the hub. Power > > up the laptop. Use p2 command. > > > > The filesystem format of the USB flash drive should have no bearing > on > > the success or failure of a USB probe. But thanks for letting me > know. > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >
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