On Feb 7, 2016 9:59 AM, "Peter Robinson" <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2016 3:22 AM, "Peter Robinson" <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> things like > >> the PINE64 above it has a SoC attached network but not storage. > > > > Both SATA (real TB+ disks) and Ethernet (external Wi-Fi AP antennae) are > > icing-on-the-cake we will both strongly consider. > > > >> As is stands at the moment some of the best cheap devices for server > >> style devices is AllWinner A20 devices (CubieTruck, BananaPi and > >> friends) and i.MX6 devices (Wandboard, CuBox-i and friends) > > > > Hugely helpful. > > > > Key criterion for offline/remote deployments: does this accept 128GB MicroSD > > cards, so 2016's developing world $50-100 "knowledge hotspots" increasingly > > now become very real? (Aside: 256GB MicroSD cards will be part of this well > > before 2020, apparently beyond the capability of most of these SoC's.) > > > > Peter, does Fedora 24 have a shot to one day run on the "$19" Pine64 Plus?! > > Even if it's ambiguous whether it can truly contain 2GB RAM as advertised, > > Pine64 claims to run up to 70C which is very promising if true. ($15 Pine64 > > contains 512MB, and $19 "Pine64 Plus" contains 1GB RAM. Their 2GB RAM story > > is very attractive, but may be marketing vaporware for now?) > > Yes, I've got one awaiting for me on my return to London. Kernel isn't > upstream, nor is u-boot, I'm not sure how big the patches are, I'm > hoping it'll all be landable in F-24.
Profound thanks Peter. More strategic than Nov 8th's election: we'll notify the Nobel committee ;) > I'm not sure why you'd want to use a > 128Gb SD card over an actual SSD or HDD, the later are a lot more > robust. In a perfect world: HDD/SSD robustnesses IS mandatory on the high-end. We need offer both. On the low-end dirt-poor clinics, libraries, school living in crushing poverty demand $15 64G Samsung MicroSD digital libraries...downloading as much knowledge (and Sugarizer) into their brains before device croaks after a year--or needs a new SD card after heavy use. Ethics demand that we answer this request for a sub-$50 "knowledge hotspot", after our reservoir of recycled XO-1.5 community servers will sadly be depleted in the coming year or so. > There's literally 100s of possible devices that would possibly > meet your needs, what would be great is a list of must haves and a > list of nice to haves and from that I could give a list of possible > options. Top Criteria: - accepts 64G and increasingly 128G MicroSD cards - internal Wi-Fi runs AP mode so "knowledge hotspot" can broadcast! - runs Fedora 24, if not CentOS sometime in future? - sufficient horsepower to deliver dynamic content like offline-searchable OpenStreetMap (2G RAM strongly preferred; 1G RAM may suffice for 2016?) Highly Desirable Criteria: - works up to ~70C as Pine64 claims, even in high humidity?? - tolerates crappy electricity & frequent outages, when external battery pack depleted by desperate nearby mobile phone users - dust-proof case Icing-on-the-cake Criteria: (high-end "$100 knowledge hotspots" in larger clinics/libraries/schools will kill for this!) - Ethernet (100mb/s sufficient) for better Wi-Fi + antennae, mounted up high? - SATA (2.5 inch 9mm HDD, mountable inside dust-proof case) - MicroSD card can be glued in and/or hidden to avoid excess theft. MicroSD cards often surpass the value of a month's salary; tragically these ARE the conditions we work in :/
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