Thanks Peter Robinson, Paul Fox and Dogi Unterhauser for your illuminating 2016's evolving and very promising options-
Preliminary conclusion is that we are buying a few $29 http://pine64.com (includes 2GB RAM) to experiment with. What is the best mailing list to discuss Fedora (or non-Fedora) firmware, u-boot, kernel issues for Pine64 and similar, do you know? (http://wiki.pine64.org is coming to life, which is a great start!) On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2016 9:59 AM, "Peter Robinson" <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > On Feb 7, 2016 3:22 AM, "Peter Robinson" <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> things like > > >> the PINE64 above it has a SoC attached network but not storage. > > > > > > Both SATA (real TB+ disks) and Ethernet (external Wi-Fi AP antennae) > are > > > icing-on-the-cake we will both strongly consider. > > > > > >> As is stands at the moment some of the best cheap devices for server > > >> style devices is AllWinner A20 devices (CubieTruck, BananaPi and > > >> friends) and i.MX6 devices (Wandboard, CuBox-i and friends) > > > > > > Hugely helpful. > > > > > > Key criterion for offline/remote deployments: does this accept 128GB > MicroSD > > > cards, so 2016's developing world $50-100 "knowledge hotspots" > increasingly > > > now become very real? (Aside: 256GB MicroSD cards will be part of > this well > > > before 2020, apparently beyond the capability of most of these SoC's.) > > > > > > Peter, does Fedora 24 have a shot to one day run on the "$19" Pine64 > Plus?! > > > Even if it's ambiguous whether it can truly contain 2GB RAM as > advertised, > > > Pine64 claims to run up to 70C which is very promising if true. ($15 > Pine64 > > > contains 512MB, and $19 "Pine64 Plus" contains 1GB RAM. Their 2GB RAM > story > > > is very attractive, but may be marketing vaporware for now?) > > > > Yes, I've got one awaiting for me on my return to London. Kernel isn't > > upstream, nor is u-boot, I'm not sure how big the patches are, I'm > > hoping it'll all be landable in F-24. > > Profound thanks Peter. More strategic than Nov 8th's election: we'll > notify the Nobel committee ;) > > > I'm not sure why you'd want to use a > > 128Gb SD card over an actual SSD or HDD, the later are a lot more > > robust. > > In a perfect world: HDD/SSD robustnesses IS mandatory on the high-end. We > need offer both. On the low-end dirt-poor clinics, libraries, school > living in crushing poverty demand $15 64G Samsung MicroSD digital > libraries...downloading as much knowledge (and Sugarizer) into their brains > before device croaks after a year--or needs a new SD card after heavy use. > > Ethics demand that we answer this request for a sub-$50 "knowledge > hotspot", after our reservoir of recycled XO-1.5 community servers will > sadly be depleted in the coming year or so. > > > There's literally 100s of possible devices that would possibly > > meet your needs, what would be great is a list of must haves and a > > list of nice to haves and from that I could give a list of possible > > options. > > Top Criteria: > - accepts 64G and increasingly 128G MicroSD cards > - internal Wi-Fi runs AP mode so "knowledge hotspot" can broadcast! > - runs Fedora 24, if not CentOS sometime in future? > - sufficient horsepower to deliver dynamic content like offline-searchable > OpenStreetMap (2G RAM strongly preferred; 1G RAM may suffice for 2016?) > > Highly Desirable Criteria: > - works up to ~70C as Pine64 claims, even in high humidity?? > - tolerates crappy electricity & frequent outages, when external battery > pack depleted by desperate nearby mobile phone users > - dust-proof case > > Icing-on-the-cake Criteria: (high-end "$100 knowledge hotspots" in larger > clinics/libraries/schools will kill for this!) > - Ethernet (100mb/s sufficient) for better Wi-Fi + antennae, mounted up > high? > - SATA (2.5 inch 9mm HDD, mountable inside dust-proof case) > - MicroSD card can be glued in and/or hidden to avoid excess theft. > MicroSD cards often surpass the value of a month's salary; tragically these > ARE the conditions we work in :/ > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >
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