Not sure what you mean; the file's loaded in OMPI_LOAD_PLATFORM, at which
point all the contents of the file are evaluated as environment variables.
 The real problem is that someone really screwed up configure somewhere
along the way and called AC_CONONICAL_HOST before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, which
means AC_PROG_GCC got evaluated really early, before OMPI_LOAD_PLATFORM is
evaluated.  It really needs to be evaluated before any non-init macros.

Brian

On 5/23/12 2:44 PM, "Ralph Castain" <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:

>I'm looking at it...
>
>We pickup the file at the right place, but we don't pull any of the flags
>out of it until later. I'm trying to see if I can adjust it.
>
>BTW: none of this changed from the 1.5 series, so this has been the
>situation for a very long time.
>
>
>On May 23, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Barrett, Brian W wrote:
>
>> Yup, it sucks.  But that's not supported functionality.  Someone could
>> possibly desire to support it, but I could never get behavior I was
>> comfortable with, so I'm not making promises that should work.  The
>> platform thing is a real hack to begin with in terms of what it does to
>> autoconf...
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> On 5/23/12 2:37 PM, "Gunter, David O" <d...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>> 
>>> So perhaps I should stop calling them environment variables. Since one
>>> can always do something like
>>> 
>>> $ ./configure CFLAGS="-I/usr/include/specialK" ...
>>> 
>>> a line such as 
>>> 
>>> CFLAGS="-I/usr/include/specialK"
>>> 
>>> should be supported by the platform file reader.  No two systems are
>>> alike here and we need these platform files to manage the dozens of
>>> different OMPI builds. We have different paths for the IB libs, Panasas
>>> file system libs and includes, etc.  Essentially, we're not going to
>>>1.6
>>> at the moment.
>>> 
>>> -david
>>> 
>>> --
>>> David Gunter
>>> HPC-3: Infrastructure Team
>>> Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 23, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Barrett, Brian W wrote:
>>> 
>>>> David -
>>>> 
>>>> Where exactly the platform file gets evaluated depends on a number of
>>>> things that the OMPI developers don't have a lot of control over.  It
>>>> was
>>>> never meant to be used to set environment variables, only command line
>>>> arguments.  It looks like something bad has happened with ordering;
>>>>I'm
>>>> not sure when I'll be able to take a look, but we should be able to
>>>>make
>>>> it evaluate sooner...
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/23/12 2:16 PM, "Gunter, David O" <d...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think I have some understanding of what is happening. In version
>>>>>1.6,
>>>>> the check for the platform file occurs after some basic compiler
>>>>> testing
>>>>> has already occured:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (dog@tu-fe1 61%) ./configure --with-platform=non-existant
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>======================================================================
>>>>>==
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ==
>>>>> == Configuring Open MPI
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>======================================================================
>>>>>==
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ==
>>>>> 
>>>>> *** Startup tests
>>>>> checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>> checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>> checking for gcc... gcc
>>>>> checking whether the C compiler works... yes
>>>>> checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
>>>>> checking for suffix of executables...
>>>>> checking whether we are cross compiling... no
>>>>> checking for suffix of object files... o
>>>>> checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
>>>>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
>>>>> checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
>>>>> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
>>>>> checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
>>>>> checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
>>>>> checking for ANSI C header files... yes
>>>>> checking for sys/types.h... yes
>>>>> checking for sys/stat.h... yes
>>>>> checking for stdlib.h... yes
>>>>> checking for string.h... yes
>>>>> checking for memory.h... yes
>>>>> checking for strings.h... yes
>>>>> checking for inttypes.h... yes
>>>>> checking for stdint.h... yes
>>>>> checking for unistd.h... yes
>>>>> checking minix/config.h usability... no
>>>>> checking minix/config.h presence... no
>>>>> checking for minix/config.h... no
>>>>> checking whether it is safe to define __EXTENSIONS__... yes
>>>>> configure: error: platform file non-existant not found
>>>>> (dog@tu-fe1 62%)
>>>>> 
>>>>> For OMPI 1.4.5, the platform file check occurs right off:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (dog@tu-fe1 13%) ./configure --with-platform=non-existant
>>>>> configure: error: platform file non-existant not found
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As it is in the newer release, it will fail to work for the PGI
>>>>> compilers
>>>>> then.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -david
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> David Gunter
>>>>> HPC-3: Infrastructure Team
>>>>> Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 23, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Gunter, David O wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought the purpose of the platform file was to be equivalent to
>>>>>> setting things on the command-line to configure. Still, it has
>>>>>>always
>>>>>> worked that way for us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here's what I'm seeing:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (dog@lo1-fe 297%) ./configure
>>>>>> --prefix=/usr/projects/hpcsoft/lobo/openmpi/1.6.0-pgi-12.4
>>>>>> --with-platform=./optimized-panasas-pgi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>=====================================================================
>>>>>>==
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>> == Configuring Open MPI
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>=====================================================================
>>>>>>==
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *** Startup tests
>>>>>> checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>> checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>> checking for gcc...
>>>>>> /usr/projects/hpcsoft/lobo/pgi/linux86-64/12.4/bin/pgcc
>>>>>> checking whether the C compiler works... no
>>>>>> configure: error: in
>>>>>>`/usr/projects/hpctools/dog/openmpi/openmpi-1.6':
>>>>>> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
>>>>>> See `config.log' for more details
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The error happens because this particular compiler, pgi-12.4, needs
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> flags: -lnomp and -lnuma. Thus the reason for the LDFLAGS line in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>> platform file.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I compile like this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (dog@lo1-fe 297%) ./configure
>>>>>> --prefix=/usr/projects/hpcsoft/lobo/openmpi/1.6.0-pgi-12.4
>>>>>> --with-platform=./optimized-panasas-pgi LDFLAGS="-nomp -lnuma"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then the configure proceeds normally.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -david
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> David Gunter
>>>>>> HPC-3: Infrastructure Team
>>>>>> Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can you send some output showing that those flags aren't passed
>>>>>>> through, like some output from "make V=1" and or from config.log?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Offhand, I don't know if we ever formally supported setting env
>>>>>>> variables other than enable and with flag variables in the platform
>>>>>>> files...?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my phone. No type good.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 23, 2012, at 12:49 PM, "Gunter, David O" <d...@lanl.gov>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am trying to set LDFLAGS, CFLAGS, etc, in a platform file but
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>> 1.6 release does not seem to pick these up.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here's the tail end of one of our platform files, for building
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>> the latest PGI compilers:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> LDFLAGS="-nomp -lnuma"
>>>>>>>> CFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>> CXXFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>> FCFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>> FFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>> CCASFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The same platform file will configure the 1.4.5 release just fine
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> does not work with 1.6. If I set these variables in my environment
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> then run configure, it works just fine - as expected.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Has anyone else noticed this behavior?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -david
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> David Gunter
>>>>>>>> HPC-3: Infrastructure Team
>>>>>>>> Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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