On May 23, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Barrett, Brian W wrote:

> It shouldn't be before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, that's just busted and needs to
> be fixed in hwloc...

I don't think that's right.  It's an AC macro, not an AM macro, so it can come 
before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.

Here's what happens if you put it before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE:

----
[21:49] jsquyres-mac:~/tmp/foo % cat configure.ac
AC_INIT([bogus], [1.0], [http://example.com], [bogus])
AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(./config)
AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR(./config)

AC_CANONICAL_TARGET
AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([1.10 foreign -Wall -Werror])

AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile])
AC_OUTPUT
[21:49] jsquyres-mac:~/tmp/foo % autoreconf -ivf && ./configure
autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
....it works fine
-----

But if you flip CANONICAL_TARGET / INIT_AUTOMAKE:

-----
[21:50] jsquyres-mac:~/tmp/foo % autoreconf -ivf && ./configure
autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
autoreconf: running: aclocal --force 
configure.ac:6: warning: AC_ARG_PROGRAM was called before AC_CANONICAL_TARGET
../../lib/autoconf/general.m4:1834: AC_CANONICAL_TARGET is expanded from...
configure.ac:6: the top level
autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing
configure.ac:6: warning: AC_ARG_PROGRAM was called before AC_CANONICAL_TARGET
../../lib/autoconf/general.m4:1834: AC_CANONICAL_TARGET is expanded from...
configure.ac:6: the top level
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Libtool
autoreconf: running: /opt/local/bin/autoconf --force
configure.ac:6: warning: AC_ARG_PROGRAM was called before AC_CANONICAL_TARGET
../../lib/autoconf/general.m4:1834: AC_CANONICAL_TARGET is expanded from...
configure.ac:6: the top level
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Autoheader
autoreconf: running: automake --add-missing --copy --force-missing
configure.ac:6: warning: AC_ARG_PROGRAM was called before AC_CANONICAL_TARGET
../../lib/autoconf/general.m4:1834: AC_CANONICAL_TARGET is expanded from...
configure.ac:6: the top level
autoreconf: Leaving directory `.'
.........etc.
-----

configure does seem to run ok, but I didn't include any other tests (like 
AC_PROG_CC), etc.  I have a dim recollection that other things would break, but 
am too tired to test that right now.


> Brian
> 
> On 5/23/12 3:23 PM, "Jeff Squyres" <jsquy...@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yea, the CANONICAL_HOST thing is because of hwloc; sorry...  It needs to
>> be very, very early in configure.ac.  So getting the ordering wrong there
>> was probably my fault; sorry.
>> 
>> On May 23, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah, okay - didn't realize that ordering. I'll fix it - thanks!
>>> 
>>> On May 23, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Barrett, Brian W wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Not sure what you mean; the file's loaded in OMPI_LOAD_PLATFORM, at
>>>> which
>>>> point all the contents of the file are evaluated as environment
>>>> variables.
>>>> The real problem is that someone really screwed up configure somewhere
>>>> along the way and called AC_CONONICAL_HOST before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE,
>>>> which
>>>> means AC_PROG_GCC got evaluated really early, before
>>>> OMPI_LOAD_PLATFORM is
>>>> evaluated.  It really needs to be evaluated before any non-init macros.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/23/12 2:44 PM, "Ralph Castain" <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm looking at it...
>>>>> 
>>>>> We pickup the file at the right place, but we don't pull any of the
>>>>> flags
>>>>> out of it until later. I'm trying to see if I can adjust it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW: none of this changed from the 1.5 series, so this has been the
>>>>> situation for a very long time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 23, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Barrett, Brian W wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yup, it sucks.  But that's not supported functionality.  Someone
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> possibly desire to support it, but I could never get behavior I was
>>>>>> comfortable with, so I'm not making promises that should work.  The
>>>>>> platform thing is a real hack to begin with in terms of what it does
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> autoconf...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/23/12 2:37 PM, "Gunter, David O" <d...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So perhaps I should stop calling them environment variables. Since
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> can always do something like
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> $ ./configure CFLAGS="-I/usr/include/specialK" ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> a line such as
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CFLAGS="-I/usr/include/specialK"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> should be supported by the platform file reader.  No two systems are
>>>>>>> alike here and we need these platform files to manage the dozens of
>>>>>>> different OMPI builds. We have different paths for the IB libs,
>>>>>>> Panasas
>>>>>>> file system libs and includes, etc.  Essentially, we're not going to
>>>>>>> 1.6
>>>>>>> at the moment.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -david
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> David Gunter
>>>>>>> HPC-3: Infrastructure Team
>>>>>>> Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 23, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Barrett, Brian W wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> David -
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Where exactly the platform file gets evaluated depends on a number
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> things that the OMPI developers don't have a lot of control over.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> never meant to be used to set environment variables, only command
>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>> arguments.  It looks like something bad has happened with ordering;
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> not sure when I'll be able to take a look, but we should be able to
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> it evaluate sooner...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5/23/12 2:16 PM, "Gunter, David O" <d...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think I have some understanding of what is happening. In version
>>>>>>>>> 1.6,
>>>>>>>>> the check for the platform file occurs after some basic compiler
>>>>>>>>> testing
>>>>>>>>> has already occured:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (dog@tu-fe1 61%) ./configure --with-platform=non-existant
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ===================================================================
>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>> == Configuring Open MPI
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ===================================================================
>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *** Startup tests
>>>>>>>>> checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>>>>> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>>>>> checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>>>>> checking for gcc... gcc
>>>>>>>>> checking whether the C compiler works... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
>>>>>>>>> checking for suffix of executables...
>>>>>>>>> checking whether we are cross compiling... no
>>>>>>>>> checking for suffix of object files... o
>>>>>>>>> checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
>>>>>>>>> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
>>>>>>>>> checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
>>>>>>>>> checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
>>>>>>>>> checking for ANSI C header files... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for sys/types.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for sys/stat.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for stdlib.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for string.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for memory.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for strings.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for inttypes.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for stdint.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking for unistd.h... yes
>>>>>>>>> checking minix/config.h usability... no
>>>>>>>>> checking minix/config.h presence... no
>>>>>>>>> checking for minix/config.h... no
>>>>>>>>> checking whether it is safe to define __EXTENSIONS__... yes
>>>>>>>>> configure: error: platform file non-existant not found
>>>>>>>>> (dog@tu-fe1 62%)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For OMPI 1.4.5, the platform file check occurs right off:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (dog@tu-fe1 13%) ./configure --with-platform=non-existant
>>>>>>>>> configure: error: platform file non-existant not found
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As it is in the newer release, it will fail to work for the PGI
>>>>>>>>> compilers
>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -david
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> David Gunter
>>>>>>>>> HPC-3: Infrastructure Team
>>>>>>>>> Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Gunter, David O wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I thought the purpose of the platform file was to be equivalent
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> setting things on the command-line to configure. Still, it has
>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>> worked that way for us.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here's what I'm seeing:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> (dog@lo1-fe 297%) ./configure
>>>>>>>>>> --prefix=/usr/projects/hpcsoft/lobo/openmpi/1.6.0-pgi-12.4
>>>>>>>>>> --with-platform=./optimized-panasas-pgi
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ==================================================================
>>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>>> == Configuring Open MPI
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ==================================================================
>>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> *** Startup tests
>>>>>>>>>> checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>>>>>> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>>>>>> checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>>>>>>>>>> checking for gcc...
>>>>>>>>>> /usr/projects/hpcsoft/lobo/pgi/linux86-64/12.4/bin/pgcc
>>>>>>>>>> checking whether the C compiler works... no
>>>>>>>>>> configure: error: in
>>>>>>>>>> `/usr/projects/hpctools/dog/openmpi/openmpi-1.6':
>>>>>>>>>> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
>>>>>>>>>> See `config.log' for more details
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The error happens because this particular compiler, pgi-12.4,
>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>> flags: -lnomp and -lnuma. Thus the reason for the LDFLAGS line in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> platform file.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If I compile like this:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> (dog@lo1-fe 297%) ./configure
>>>>>>>>>> --prefix=/usr/projects/hpcsoft/lobo/openmpi/1.6.0-pgi-12.4
>>>>>>>>>> --with-platform=./optimized-panasas-pgi LDFLAGS="-nomp -lnuma"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Then the configure proceeds normally.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -david
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> David Gunter
>>>>>>>>>> HPC-3: Infrastructure Team
>>>>>>>>>> Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you send some output showing that those flags aren't passed
>>>>>>>>>>> through, like some output from "make V=1" and or from
>>>>>>>>>>> config.log?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Offhand, I don't know if we ever formally supported setting env
>>>>>>>>>>> variables other than enable and with flag variables in the
>>>>>>>>>>> platform
>>>>>>>>>>> files...?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone. No type good.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2012, at 12:49 PM, "Gunter, David O" <d...@lanl.gov>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to set LDFLAGS, CFLAGS, etc, in a platform file but
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.6 release does not seem to pick these up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the tail end of one of our platform files, for building
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest PGI compilers:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> LDFLAGS="-nomp -lnuma"
>>>>>>>>>>>> CFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>>>>>> CXXFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>>>>>> FCFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>>>>>> FFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>>>>>> CCASFLAGS="-I/opt/panfs/include"
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The same platform file will configure the 1.4.5 release just
>>>>>>>>>>>> fine
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> does not work with 1.6. If I set these variables in my
>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> then run configure, it works just fine - as expected.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else noticed this behavior?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -david
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Gunter
>>>>>>>>>>>> HPC-3: Infrastructure Team
>>>>>>>>>>>> Los Alamos National Laboratory
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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