Sooo...what's the issue with checking for it then? Isn't it "required" by 
association?


On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:27 AM, "Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)" <jsquy...@cisco.com> 
wrote:

> We only call out te version of m4 because the Autotools we require need that 
> m4 version (which is not always already installed). We don't need that 
> version of m4 for OMPI itself. 
> 
> Sent from my phone. No type good. 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:04 AM, "Ralph Castain" <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:
> 
>> Only because we call out a minimum required version in our HACKING file, but 
>> we never check for it
>> 
>> If we don't require a min version, then we shouldn't check - but if we do, 
>> then we should
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 9:00 AM, "Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)" <jsquy...@cisco.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wait. 
>>> 
>>> Why did we just add a version check for m4?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my phone. No type good. 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 9:43 AM, "Hjelm, Nathan T" <hje...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Committed as r27615. Let me know if there are any more issues.
>>>> 
>>>> -Nathan
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: devel-boun...@open-mpi.org [devel-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf of 
>>>> Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:53 AM
>>>> To: Open MPI Developers
>>>> Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] [OMPI svn] svn:open-mpi r27601 - trunk
>>>> 
>>>> Looks fine to me. I would only add one further refinement - I think we 
>>>> should check m4, but add a check in autogen.pl so that if we get nothing 
>>>> useful back from -v (or whatever), then output a warning that we couldn't 
>>>> validate the version and assume it is okay.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe the tool will return a non-zero status if the option isn't 
>>>> supported, so we should be able to do this - yes?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:48 AM, "Hjelm, Nathan T" <hje...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Since the version of m4 that comes with Solaris likely works with all our 
>>>>> .m4 files and there is no way to check the version (no --version, -v, -V, 
>>>>> or anything from what I can tell) I guess we have no choice but to not 
>>>>> check the m4 version.
>>>>> 
>>>>> flex on the other hand we can check. How about this for the new regex 
>>>>> (for reference the old one is $version =~ m/\s([\d\w\.]+)$/m; -- matching 
>>>>> a version at the end of the line):
>>>>> 
>>>>> $version =~ m/\s([\d\.]+\w?)/m;
>>>>> 
>>>>> It works with Apple's flex and still works with glibtoolize, autoconf, 
>>>>> and automake.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Searching for autoconf
>>>>> Found autoconf version 2.69; checking version...
>>>>>   Found version component 2 -- need 2
>>>>>   Found version component 69 -- need 65
>>>>> ==> ACCEPTED
>>>>> Searching for libtoolize
>>>>> libtoolize not found
>>>>> Searching for glibtoolize
>>>>> Found glibtoolize version 2.4.2; checking version...
>>>>>   Found version component 2 -- need 2
>>>>>   Found version component 4 -- need 2
>>>>> ==> ACCEPTED
>>>>> Searching for automake
>>>>> Found automake version 1.12.2; checking version...
>>>>>   Found version component 1 -- need 1
>>>>>   Found version component 12 -- need 11
>>>>> ==> ACCEPTED
>>>>> Searching for flex
>>>>> Found flex version 2.5.35; checking version...
>>>>>   Found version component 2 -- need 2
>>>>>   Found version component 5 -- need 5
>>>>>   Found version component 35 -- need 35
>>>>> ==> ACCEPTED
>>>>> Searching for m4
>>>>> Found m4 version 1.4.6; checking version...
>>>>>   Found version component 1 -- need 1
>>>>>   Found version component 4 -- need 4
>>>>>   Found version component 6 -- need 16
>>>>> ==> Too low!  Skipping this version
>>>>> Searching for gm4
>>>>> Found gm4 version 1.4.16; checking version...
>>>>>   Found version component 1 -- need 1
>>>>>   Found version component 4 -- need 4
>>>>>   Found version component 16 -- need 16
>>>>> ==> ACCEPTED
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: devel-boun...@open-mpi.org [devel-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf 
>>>>> of Paul Hargrove [phhargr...@lbl.gov]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:37 PM
>>>>> To: Larry Baker
>>>>> Cc: Open MPI Developers
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] [OMPI svn] svn:open-mpi r27601 - trunk
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just wanted to speak up quickly to be sure nobody used your example to 
>>>>> "fix" the Mac OS problem and thereby break Solaris instead.  No personal 
>>>>> attack/affront was intended.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Paulhttps://mymail.lanl.gov/owa/?ae=PreFormAction&t=IPM.Note&a=ReplyAll&id=RgAAAAD3GfjXt9HDTI902%2b63W1IcBwCuRfL1X%2babT5m7NFXoIdcVAAAAxVZxAACuRfL1X%2babT5m7NFXoIdcVAAAa4RQFAAAJ#
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Larry Baker 
>>>>> <ba...@usgs.gov<mailto:ba...@usgs.gov>> wrote:
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) I wasn't trying to solve the --version issue, only the parsing of the 
>>>>> response.
>>>>> 2) I assumed from the initial e-mail that the broken parser was in a Perl 
>>>>> script.  I'm not a Perl person, so I wrote the example regular expression 
>>>>> parser in sed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> These commands were done on my Mac OS X 10.6 system.  I have no idea 
>>>>> where the apps came from.  I know the sed, at least, does not recognize 
>>>>> regular expressions documented for GNU sed (such as \< \> for begin/end 
>>>>> word).  Maybe it is a BSD sed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was just trying to illustrate how to fix the broken parsing of Ralph's 
>>>>> "flex --version".  Assuming the RE parser I wrote is satisfactory, it 
>>>>> would have to be adapted to fit in the framework, i.e., it has to be 
>>>>> portable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry Baker
>>>>> US Geological Survey
>>>>> 650-329-5608<tel:650-329-5608>
>>>>> ba...@usgs.gov<mailto:ba...@usgs.gov>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 Nov 2012, at 5:41 PM, Paul Hargrove wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Larry Baker 
>>>>> <ba...@usgs.gov<mailto:ba...@usgs.gov>> wrote:
>>>>> m4 --version | sed -n -E -e 
>>>>> '1s/^.*[^A-Za-z0-9_-]?([0-9]+[.][0-9]+[.][0-9]+)[^A-Za-z0-9_-]?.*$/\1/p'
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are STILL problems with this approach as it is TWICE specific to 
>>>>> GNU software:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) M4 on OpenBSD (maybe others) doesn't support a "--version" flag:
>>>>> $ m4 --version | sed -n -E -e 
>>>>> '1s/^.*[^A-Za-z0-9_-]?([0-9]+[.][0-9]+[.][0-9]+)[^A-Za-z0-9_-]?.*$/\1/p'
>>>>> m4: unknown option -- -
>>>>> usage: m4 [-gPs] [-Dname[=value]] [-d flags] [-I dirname] [-o filename]
>>>>>    [-t macro] [-Uname] [file ...]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) sed on Solaris (maybe others) doesn't support a "-E" flag:
>>>>> $ m4 --version | sed -n -E -e 
>>>>> '1s/^.*[^A-Za-z0-9_-]?([0-9]+[.][0-9]+[.][0-9]+)[^A-Za-z0-9_-]?.*$/\1/p'
>>>>> /bin/sed: illegal option -- E
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>>> --
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