Dear all,

I am following the multi-radio mesh discussion with a lot of interest. 
Indeed multi-radio environments are tricky. There are few things to 
remember:

Traditionally, 802.11 counts channel numbers in increments of 5 MHz. 
Table 15-7 on page 566 of 802.11-2007 
<http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.11-2007.pdf> lists 
the center frequencies of each channel in the 2.4 GHz band. This channel 
numbering is valid for DSSS and OFDM operation.

With 802.11, the standard channel bandwidth is 20 MHz (other options are 
5, 10, and 40 MHz channels). Although regulatory authorities in Germany 
allow WLAN operation in the 2.4 GHz in the range from 2400.0 GHz to 
2483.5 GHz 802.11 defines the first center frequency to be at 2412 MHz 
and not at 2410 MHz (± 20/2 MHz). This is because of inevitable out of 
channel emissions. Neither an OFDM (802.11a/g/j/n) nor a DSSS (802.11b) 
signal forms a perfect rectangular. For example, 15.4.7.4 in 802.11-2007 
explains the transmit spectrum mask for DSSS. Thus, the channels are not 
orthogonal to each other.

So when a device incorporates two radios they will interfere with each 
other because of their out of band transmissions. Assume that you have 
two radios transmitting at 20 dBm. Let's assume both antennas are 
separated by 10 cm. Thus we have ~20 dB path loss between them. So, they 
mutually receive their signals at 0 dBm. Let's further assume the radios 
are emitting at 50 dB less in each others frequency band. So we are down 
to -50 dBm of mutual interference. That's still a lot! Compare this to a 
free space loss of 60 dB at 10 m distance.

The adjacent channel interference is no different in the 5 GHz band. 
When one radio transmits in channel 36 (center frequency 5.18 GHz) and 
another radio transmits in channel 40 (center frequency 5.2 GHz), they 
will experience adjacent channel interference.

Yeoh reported that he has 17.8 Mb/s TCP throughput on a single hop 
connection. Remember that this includes IP and TCP overhead. All in all 
that's a very good value. With 802.11g the maximum real world throughput 
is around 22 Mb/s with the 64 QAM 3/4 MCS. Please remember that maximum 
theoretical throughput calculations often assume MSDUs of 2304 B size. 
However, with APs connected to an Ethernet you won't see payloads larger 
than 1500 B. One can squeeze out more throughput with 40 MHz channels, 
block acknowledgments, frame aggregation etc. However, that usually 
comes with 802.11n.

Another thing to remember is the hardware. Although document 
<http://www.tti.unipa.it/~ilenia/pub/info07.pdf> discusses 802.11b and 
not 802.11g NICs it's still extremely interesting to read. There are so 
many bugs in theses cards that it is very difficult to present reliable 
results.

Best regards,

Guido

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