Hello,
Thanks for answer.
AFAIK every programming language/l18n library is using it's own
templates for localization (%1 is GNU one, java is using {{}} if I
remember correctly, etc).
Don't take it literally.
Yes, it can be done, but when I was translating, it was quite
confusing. I didn't know where this string will appear or will it be
concat'ed with some number or string.
Temuri
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:08 PM Sharon Gratch <sgra...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:15 PM Radoslaw Szwajkowski <rszwa...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 7:24 AM Temuri Doghonadze
>> <temuri.doghona...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Just finished translation of oVirt to Georgian and noticed something weird.
>> > On landing page of admin interface, after logging in, there is
>> > "Clusters" link, showing number of clusters in DC. But in Zanata it's
>> > not translated as "%1 Clusters", but just "Clusters", which makes
>> > whole thing look silly when translated to Georgian.
>> >
>>
>> Yes. This actually can be incorrect in all (most?) languages - the
>> label is always (one kind of) plural regardless of the number.
>> However you will find many more cases like this - especially in Web
>> Admin which is GWT-based. In general Ovirt is not 100% i18n ready.
>>
>> > Quote from wiki:
>> > "The plural suffix is not used when the noun is preceded by a
>> > quantifier of some kind, such as a cardinal number."
>> > ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_grammar#Pluralisation )
>> >
>> > With technical terms, see here.
>> > https://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/localization-guide/en/latest/l10n/pluralforms.html?id=l10n/pluralform
>> >
>> > Georgian: "nplurals=1; plural=0;"
>> >
>> > Details:
>> > oVirt version: master,
>> > zanata module name: ovirt-engine-ui-extensions
>> > file ID: extra/messages/src/messages.json
>> >
>> > Can this be fixed?
>> >
>>
>> IIUC the label should always stay singular, right? Then the easiest
>> workaround is to translate it as such.
>> Label 'dashboard.statusCardClusterTitle' as the name suggests is used
>> only in that one place so this is safe.
>
>
> This solution of no distinction between the singular and plural forms is
> currently used by RHV for other locales as well (e.g. Japanese, Korean) and
> AFAIK we didn't hear any complaints about that, so I guess that using the
> singular label is the correct solution to use here for Georgian as well.
>
>
>>
>>
>> The proper solution for all languages would be to make the translation
>> layer aware of the items count. Here (and only here) it's doable:
>> dashboard is part of the UI Extensions project that uses a modern
>> translation library which covers all kinds of border cases including
>> different plurals. We use this syntax [1] i.e. for
>> 'cluster.upgrade.HostsLabel' [2]. Your message would look like
>> '{count, plural, one {Cluster} other {Cluster}}'. Small changes in the
>> code would also be required to pass the number. We could also include
>> the number as you suggested ( "%1 Clusters") but then we lose the
>> current CSS styling which relies on splitting number and text.
>
>
> And also it won't be compatible with other GWT-based places where we won't be
> able to easily fix so it can be done only if required.
>
> Anyway, adding @Terry Chuang for his input on this.
>
>
>>
>>
>> best regards,
>> radek
>>
>> [1] https://formatjs.io/docs/intl-messageformat/#common-usage-example
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-engine-ui-extensions/blob/c2d7e2832a0223ece0b90c35a7521d613fcd36ab/src/intl/messages.js#L651
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