> I'm afraid your rants and threats won't do > much good there though.
Great. Shoot the messenger. (btw, No one is ranting or threatening. Just being lucid and assertive. IMHO.) I have noticed a lot of drama and negativity on this list too. I don't have experience with other free software projects so I don't know whether this is the case everywhere. It does seem there is a tendency in the X world to demonize people. In some cases that's warranted; I have run across more than one roguish character (I am NOT talking about anyone who is reading this list.). But in the general case I think it is better to give people the benefit of the doubt. Especially on what is ostensibly a free software project (though many contributors are fortunate enough to be compensated for their expertise). I find that people tend to live up or live down to your expectations. So if you want contributions you should encourage contributions. (And I'm not talking about proclaiming "We want contributions." None of us are naive; we all know it's a little more subtle than that.) It is true that some of these contributions might break things. Welcome to the real world. There are formal and informal means of hedging this risk. I know, I know, who is this guy. I first contributed to XFree86 shortly after the crust of the earth cooled. That working for free landed me a job, though one of the conditions of my employment was that I stop contributing to XFree86. As I have not been encumbered by employment for a very long time now, I guess I could start contributing again. I would certainly like to be seen as a member of the community, positive contributor, etc. But I don't know, there just seems to be way too much attitude for my taste right now. And I also think I am too old to work for free. Certainly too hungry :). I guess what I am saying is I think XFree86 has a tremendous opportunity here. And I for one will be watching to see the outcome. I send my best wishes to all parties. ===== -- Craig Groeschel >ladder91 at yahoo dot com< AT '00 Tread lightly. Leave no trace. Never forget. "Fuel is a resource; people aren't." Dennis Bakke When replying, please do not quote my entire message. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
