Controversial areas are the ones that most need solutions and if you
only discuss issues that have already been resolved, you'll never come
up with anything new...

Paul /)/+)

2009/5/27 Etienne Pollard <[email protected]>:
> Paul
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:15 PM, paul perrin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't know if claiming benefits is 'immoral' if you have been taught
>> (and you genuinely believe) that you are entitled. Hence the
>> 'difficulty' of MPs repaying money - to do so suggest that they feel
>> guilty and so condemn themselves - isn't it better to be condemned for
>> arrogance than dishonesty? So best to tough it out?
>>
>> My proposal is not condemning people as immoral, but suggesting that
>> the bounds of morality be moved further back to where they appear to
>> have moved from (no concrete evidence to hand that they have moved -
>> opportunity to claim may be a factor... I'll think about it!).
>
> There doesn't seem to be very much mileage in continuing this
> particular debate in the absence of any specific data on whether
> attitudes have indeed changed.  Plus, this probably isn't the best
> place to debate questions such as whether recipients of tax-funded
> services should be grateful to the taxpayer.  So maybe we could all
> agree to disagree?
>
> -- etienne
>
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