Its called 'divide and conquer' - the supporters of freeing postcodes are divided, so they are already conquered... I think commercial and non-commercial should never be mixed - people are people they matter, companies are just convenient affectations they have no rights, just legal allowances.
Personally I could tolerated taxpayer funded data being made available for commercial use but only if derived work also became public domain too - if someone is making a profit (taking money off the public) they can't expect the public to *give* then the things they are selling back... Paul /)/+) 2009/10/10 Ian Eiloart <[email protected]> > > On 10 Oct 2009, at 16:58, Jonathan Hogg wrote: > > > On 10 Oct 2009, at 16:09, Ian Eiloart wrote: > > > >> Just sign it. We'll work on the other half later. Don't let > >> perfection > >> be the enemy of the good. > > > > Having thought about it a bit more I have decided that in fact I > > won't. Two other messages on this list have expressed my concern quite > > well: > > > > FFS, if we can't get the strongest supporters of postcode freedom to > support this, then we won't get anywhere. > > Why not start a petition to completely free the postcode, and sign both? > > > > On 10 Oct 2009, at 13:42, Richard wrote: > > > >> I just feel it hands RM a quick and easy PR 'getout' on a platter - > >> while prolonging the pain for everyone else. > > > > and: > > > > On 10 Oct 2009, at 15:21, Dan Brickley wrote: > > > >> I'd prefer to stick with the simpler message, that the data should be > >> public and free for all to use. And if it helps anyone make money, so > >> much the better. Once it's half-free and the nonprofits are happy, > >> it'll be much harder to keep the pressure on for it to be completely > >> opened up. > > > > I agree that getting a non-profit exemption will make it harder to > > campaign for fully opening the database for any use. In particular, if > > we go to the bother of lobbying MPs on the issue we shouldn't lobby > > for a half-measure as they are unlikely to listen again if we come > > back and ask for more. > > > > The right thing to campaign for is for it to be fully opened; not > > because I'm a "data wants to be free" tree-hugger, but because I > > believe it is the right thing to do economically: the current system > > enriches a pseudo-public corporation at the expense of impoverishing > > the wider economy. I think this is a message that can be understood by > > MPs. > > > > With the current public debt situation, anything that increases GDP is > > a good thing. > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list [email protected] > > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > > > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > > -- > Ian Eiloart > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public >
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