On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:28:14PM +0000, Abdul Hai wrote:
> I agree with to a certain extent Francis but I think it should be
> more of an information site rather than a campaigning one. 
> 
> It should be a new site and maybe you could run a test during the
> next by election to get it ready for the next general election. 

Candidate selection can be ongoing throughout the period between
General Elections. At least, I know selections were happening a couple
of years ago.

Anyone know, how soon after an Election do parties start to select
candidates for the next election for any seats?
 
> I am not a member of any party as once I used to work in a
> politically sensitive job so I don't take part in local parties but
> I could be wrong my understanding is that with the Liberal Democrats
> and Labour parties that it is the members who vote and they are
> likely to be more knowledgeable but with the Conservatives it is
> anyone who is eligible can vote. 
> 
> I was unable to attend the last primary but the information on the
> candidates was lacking and the vast majority of people who attended
> were not members of the party so they had no time to gather any
> information. 

Right! It is a very invisible, unscrutinised process.

Francis
 
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> 
> Great idea Abdul. Julian Todd has been saying similar things, and we
> reckon something like the following would fit the bill:
> 
> After the Election, I would like somebody (it would fit well with
> YourNextMP or DemocracyClub, or could be a new project) to track
> candidate selection for all parties on an ongoing basis.
> 
> The site would feature:
> 
> * A page for each local party, with information about how it selects
> candidates, who is up for nomination, what stage it is at, who has
> been selected, deselected etc.
> 
> * All the data obviously structured, with history etc. Would have to
> be user submitted data (YourNextMP style). If there are any votes,
> how many people voted which way, how many attended the meeting etc.
> 
> * Email alerts to give you updates about parties in your
> constituency, e.g. when there are public selection meetings, or when
> it might be worth joining a party in order to influence selection.
> 
> * A way of sharing information about people running to be PPCs.
> Basically a YourNextMP type set of information on them.
> 
> * A measure of how democratic the process is for each party (locally
> and on average nationally). Other national party statistics
> aggregated from the local party info.
> 
> * Possibly could be a campaigning site, with a way of asking /
> lobbying for open primaries, or other improvements to candidate
> selection processes.
> 
> * Possibly could be a "local party" scrutiny site - so could have
> info other than about selection, such as number of local party
> members, local party donations and so on.
> 
> What Voter Power (http://www.voterpower.org.uk/) reminds us, is that
> most people don't get a vote for their MP. The MP is preordained,
> based on the process the party uses to select the candidate.
> 
> A way of improving democracy would be to have more scrutiny of the
> candidate selection process.
> 
> Francis
> 
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 07:18:47PM +0000, Abdul Hai wrote:
> > I have been thinking about this for sometime and I was thinking
> > wouldn't be a good idea to have a site for all Conservative
> > Primaries for the next election. Before people starting making
> > comments I would like to say that even though I am Conservative
> > supporter it would be useful for non Conservatives as the
> > Primaries are open to the general public who live in the area even
> > if they are not natural supporters. 
> > 
> > We had one in my local area and it would have been useful for
> > people to have a site that gave information. I know a lot of
> > people who went there are not Tory voters. 
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