On 14 Jul 2011, at 22:08, Matthew Somerville wrote:

On 14/07/2011 21:34, simon haywood wrote:
However, the writetothem terms seem to specifically exclude the
suggestion of a message - so we had to go our own way.

That is because we believe doing so harms your campaign, as explained at http://www.writetothem.com/about-guidelines and http://www.writetothem.com/about-qa#formletters - but I'm sure you've already seen that.

Yes. There is clearly a balance between helping users who don't feel confident enough to write their own message, and simply sending a form letter. We believe we've hit a good compromise, in that we will propose content (that will vary from user to user) and specifically invite the user to edit before sending.

The test site is currently hidden in an Apache Realm. Whilst it would be inappropriate to post login details to this list, I would be happy to share them off-list if anyone would like to take a look and see what we've done.

Robin Houston wrote a wrapper around WriteToThem for a specific
campaign (the 10:10 Lighter Later one) which can be found at
https://github.com/robinhouston/write-to-mp
I'll take a look. Thanks!

It is a good example of suggesting wording without providing a pre- written message. You can see it in action by entering a postcode at http://www.lighterlater.org/mp/write

Yes, it is good. Sadly however I think it's too late in our project's life-cycle to use the code (I have no experience with Google Apps). The site populates the writetothem forms - which is something we believed we were specifically prohibited from doing.

The request was sent by another member of the team - but it's
probably not polite to post her name on this list without her
knowledge. The campaign is regarding HS2 (High Speed 2).

Ah, found it now. Do let us know if it looks like it will be getting high levels of usage, thanks.
Only time will tell!

You need to learn more about the difference between the headers of an email (From, Reply-To, etc.) and the SMTP envelope, which do not have
to be the same, for starters.

So it seems. Can you point me at a decent resource?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_address has the very basics, and you'll want to read about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_envelope_return_path etc. Sending email is, I'm afraid, a complex business to do correctly. For example, how will you deal with bounces to the addresses you are sending - what if an MP's mailbox is full? Or is temporarily unavailable at the time you send your mail - are you using/ sending to a service that will try again? Same goes for your confirmation emails - what if the recipient has implemented greylisting? Obviously, WriteToThem hopefully handles all this :)

Yes. Absolutely. That is one of the reasons why I planned to use an SMTP relay service (to which I would authenticate) - and have the MTA (Postfix, for example) handle all that. So we're back to my original question.

ATB,
Matthew

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