On Feb 2, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Michiel Meeuwissen wrote:
Nico Klasens wrote:Fourth, IMO, changing user functionality should be commnicated, but
refactoring code to have a more robust and stable system could happen at
anytime. There are a lot of good experienced developers watching mmbase who
don't want to go through all the bureaucratic procedures to change some
methods they know could be better.
I agree. If every committor would only once a year do what you did, the code
would look a lot nicer already.
backward compatibility again. Yes, we have to provide a durable api, but
aren't we allowed to change the api between major releases?
I'm never sure about that. Of course it does happen sometimes. But I think
we may sometimes be a bit (too) reluctant here.
Michiel
The whole point is not if the work is nice we all agree that it is and we thank you for the work the point is that we want more commitors if we do
that it means more people can at on any random day change 30 classes as part of cleanup. That itself is again not a problem unless they all
do it at the same time and they are all done at the high level of work you did. The MMC for that reason has to have 'some' idea of what is going on. This
is the reason why there is a cleanup project and a simple email to the projectmanager with a general note of 'i want to make changes on the whole code
base for imports, scoop etc etc fo the next few days) would have been enough. This limits the changes over overlapping work of very unlucky timing and it
also means that lesser commitors (since we want to have more commitors) don't get the feeling you can do whatever you like.
Im sorry but if such simple email to the projectmanager is too much you should not work in a opensource community or any other team. You have to see that in order
to at least have some safeguards at least some communication is needed this has nothing to do with your work but a general comment. MMBase is a lot more open then for example linux or other big opensource projects.
If you feel i am too hard then well lets have a developers meeting on topics like this since i know the mmc has been having a hard time on how to handle these issues and how to make them so that we get more developers get the feeling they are welcome and respected for their work if you see this as a attack on yourself then something is very wrong and we need to talk about it as a group.
Lets not forget the mmc also puts in alot of their private time and they are not out to get you, like you they want to have a big happy family of developers,
Daniel.
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