Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

[Gunnar Roth]

Hi Björn, i had the assumption you could mean that, but thats not a knowledge base article.

I think you mean "Compact 2013 uses the Microsoft Visual Studio 2013 compiler,"? That part was also sent to me by a colleage from another department when discussing v8 usage( as this has vs2013 depedancy according to wiki).  So we startet a MS Request to clear this issue.

The answer was that the arcticle is wrong here.

 

Where should the newer stdc++ lib for wec 2013 come from? 

 

As a side note, we were able to compile ffmpeg for wec2013 with the cl v18.00 arm compiler as this has sufficient c99 support.

But that is not supported and c++ relies heavily on its stdc++ lib where we dont have a fitting version.

 

Regards,

Gunnar

 

 

 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015 um 11:48 Uhr
Von: "Björn Breitmeyer" <bjoern.breitme...@kdab.com>
An: "Gunnar Roth" <gunnar.r...@gmx.de>
Cc: development@qt-project.org, "Thiago Macieira" <thiago.macie...@intel.com>
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

That would be this one,

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg154234.aspx

btw, i would assume the use of the newer libstdc++ if i got it right, as that
one comes from the sdk too. But maybe i am wrong, didn't gave this a lot of
time yet, which is why i couldn't test it yet.

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Am Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015, 11:00:30 schrieb Gunnar Roth:
> Hi Björn,
> what is "the knowledgebase article"? Would you mind to share a link?
>
> And even if there would be a v18.00 compiler, what about the standard c++
> library (headers, libs and dlls) where do they come from? Or would then a
> mix of newer compiler and older std c++ libary be used? That could be quite
> problematic haven such a mix leading to unpredictable behaviour from a
> programmers view. Qt could then not say, vs2013 is the base, but only
> vs2013 compiler with vs12012 std libary. Sound crazy...
> Regards,
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015 um 10:41 Uhr
> Von: "Björn Breitmeyer" <bjoern.breitme...@kdab.com>
> An: development@qt-project.org
> Cc: "Gunnar Roth" <gunnar.r...@gmx.de>, "Thiago Macieira"
> <thiago.macie...@intel.com> Betreff: Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term
> Release discussion
> Hello Gunnar,
>
> i still hadn't time to verify this, but. There is a platform builder for
> WEC2013, if you generate the SDk with that one it should have the Visual
> Studio 2013 compiler, at least thats how i read the knowledgebase article.
> Its on my TODO list to verify this, but i still didn't had the time to do
> so.
>
> Best regards
> Björn Breitmeyer
>
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> KDAB (Deutschland) GmbH&Co KG, a KDAB Group company
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>
> Am Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015, 10:16:49 schrieb Gunnar Roth:
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015 um 08:43 Uhr
> > Von: "Thiago Macieira" <thiago.macie...@intel.com>
> > An: development@qt-project.org
> > Betreff: Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion
> >
> > On Thursday 18 June 2015 08:23:52 Gunnar Roth wrote:
> > > > Am 17.06.2015 um 22:35 schrieb Thiago Macieira
> > > >
> > > > <thiago.macie...@intel.com>:
> > >> > On Wednesday 17 June 2015 19:30:25 Gunnar Roth wrote:
> > >> >> Yes that would make us (as a commercial user using a self made port
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> qt
> > >> >> 5.4.1 to wec2013 ) very unhappy. This means 5.6 will be the last
> > >> >> version
> > >> >> wec2013 would be supported and you would go straight to making a
> > >> >> back
> > >> >> port
> > >> >> very hard or even impossible.
> > >> >
> > >> > WEC 2013 was never considered deprecated. The deprecation applies to
> > >> > WEC 7
> > >> > only.
> > >>
> > >> Well ok, but how does Lars Knoll’s sentence "we could make
> > >> VS2013 the compiler baseline for 5.7.“ fit into this? As the only
> > >> supported
> > >> compiler for wec2013 is a cl with v 17.00 aka vs2012.
> > >
> > >Apparently VS2013 can also be used for WEC2013.
> >
> > IDE: yes
> > Compiler: No
> >
> > This was recently confirmed to as by microsoft. The used compiler comes
> > from the platfrombuilder wince800 tree, which is independent from the
> > used IDE. The sdk wec2013 compiler form wec2013 qfe M08 has this version:
> > Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 17.00.50728.6 for ARM
> >
> > the vs2012 arm compiler ( which is meant for win pohne and winrt) has :
> > Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 17.00.61030 for ARM
> >
> > I don't think the possible usage of the vs2013 ide has any impact on qt
> > development.
> > Regards,
> > Gunnar
> >
> >
> >
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