> On 01 Mar 2017, at 08:58, Lars Knoll <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sorry for answering only now to this thread, I was on vacation last week. 
> 
> Let’s conclude this topic now by moving on towards 5.9 as Tuukka proposed. 
> After some thinking I also agree that this is the best course of action from 
> where we are right now.

This also implies that bug fixes should now get pushed to the 5.9 branch and we 
should close the 5.8 branch soon.

Cheers,
Lars

> 
> This is certainly not a great solution, ideally we should have the capability 
> of making both 5.9 in time and push out 5.8 and 5.6 patch level releases. 
> This is currently not working and I’ll be following up on this. My goal is to 
> make sure we identify all the issues in our current release infrastructure, 
> fix at least the worst things that make creating patch level releases 
> difficult until 5.9, and have a clear roadmap for the remaining items. I 
> really don’t want this to happen again.
> 
> The other thing I’ll take from this is to have another look at the 
> interaction between TQtC and the Qt project. I do see a conflict here in how 
> we handle the release planning between the Company and the Project, and we’ll 
> need to find a better (or more clearly defined and agreed) way on how we 
> jointly create the release roadmap.
> 
> Cheers,
> Lars
> 
>> On 20 Feb 2017, at 13:56, Tuukka Turunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18/02/2017, 21.40, "Development on behalf of Thiago Macieira" 
>>> <[email protected] on behalf of 
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  On sábado, 18 de fevereiro de 2017 12:11:53 PST Mat Sutcliffe wrote:
>>>> On 18 February 2017 at 19:13, Thiago Macieira <[email protected]>
>>>> My point was that this decision happened already on 29 November. That was
>>>> the original planned release date for 5.8.0, and also the day on which the
>>>> 5.9.0 initial schedule was set. Could it have been predicted at that time
>>>> what the consequences might be for 5.8.1?
>>> 
>>>  Hindsight is 20/20. Let's not rehash coulda-woulda-shoulda.
>>> 
>>>  The question is only what to do now.
>> 
>> What I hope we can do is to have everyone helping to get Qt 5.9.0 out as 
>> soon as possible and then make also 5.9.1 soon (although I think we do need 
>> to make 5.6.3 in between).
>> 
>> If we can have the extra help proposed by KDAB and others in the community 
>> for making Qt 5.8.1 release geared towards making Qt 5.9 we will be able to 
>> make it faster and with higher quality than otherwise possible. 
>> 
>> One concrete item is manual testing of our various snapshots. The sooner 
>> these are fully tested, the better. We have CI and RTA test automation, but 
>> these do not cover every aspect. Manual testing is needed as well. Often it 
>> is a case that a bug is found in quite late release steps, but has actually 
>> been there for some time already. Another way to help is making good bug 
>> reports that are also notified to the release team. The better the 
>> description of the issue, the easier it is to fix it. Third item is of 
>> course fixing things quickly – by having more people fixing the issues 
>> identified we will be able to close them sooner and thus proceed faster. 
>> 
>> For the CI stability most important thing is to reduce the amount of flaky 
>> test cases, which cause failures in CI runs. This in turn both adds delay as 
>> well as increases the load of the CI. 
>> 
>> Yours,
>> 
>>              Tuukka
>> 
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