C'mon Jason!
Are you one of those pioneers?
I have waited since July last year when it looked like the consumer
version was coming out in November last year.
Now we are in April and the most basic stuff is till not right, and I am
wondering if it will be right in 2008.
But we are hearing about all those great conferences that are held where
the praises of the Neo are told, so as I have said before, what if the
developers cut down on the conferences and concentrated more on coding
for the Neo?
I would love to help out even just testing the Neo, but even submitting
bugs isn't cutting it because they are ignored, so not being a fanboi,
it is a very depressing situation using the Neo Basic that cost me $470
USD (at the time when the USD was worth something).
And because of it all, I am forced to use my A780, even if I would
really love to use the Neo!
Peter
Jason Dowdy wrote:
C'mon, Peter! Quit being a whiny biznitch. If the battery in your A780
is so great, then keep using it. Anybody buying a Neo knew what they
were getting in to when they bought it. The thing changes daily and
hardware/software issues were to be expected. It's probably best if you
just wait for the final release so the true pioneers can work out the
bugs for you.
Here's handkerchief...dry those weepy eyes and turn that frown upside
down.
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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 PM
To: ian douglas
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Subject: Re: Uptime?
I don't know of what HW issues there might be for the Neo GTA01 to
_drain_ so much battery so fast.
Could you be more precise?
The only thing I know that is better on the GTA02 is that it has a
calorie counter that helps deciding how much power has actually been
drained from the battery, thus helping the driver that shows how much
power is left.
It does however, not help with the battery draing issue.
Any change made in software that would help the GTA02 should also help
the GTA01.
The GTA01 battery is 1200mA and has the 6h - 12h (on/off) battery times.
My Motorola A780, which is also quite a powerful smartphone from 2004,
has a 780mA battery and doesn't drain faster than other regular
smartphones (74h when on and not used for calls, forever when off, also
without removing the battery).
I recognize that the Neo is a developers phone, but this is a disgrace
wrt. developing a mobile platform.
Peter
ian douglas wrote:
I'm not saying that at all, and sorry if I gave that impression.
The hardware guys have stated that the battery life on the Freerunner
will be MUCH better, and if you look through the mailing list
archives, you'll see many, many discussions about why battery life is
so low on the original Neo -- it *is* a developer's phone after all --
but they still hope to have a MUCH improved battery life on the GTA02.
Still, OpenMoko IS a true multitasking environment, so the device
itself is busier and requires more power than a standard mobile phone.
I seem to recall someone saying there might be a hardware issue on the
original Neo causing the short battery life, and that the solution
(for the Neo at least) for maintaining battery life after you turn the
Neo completely off is to remove the battery for ~10-20 seconds and
then reinsert it.
Again, this is my own recollection of what's been on the mailing list
since I joined last fall. Others on the list can give much more
authoritative answers. My initial answer of a true multitasking OS was
meant
Personally when I had my Neo, I only had the battery in the thing long
enough to do some flash upgrades, to make a few phone calls to test
out my AT&T and TMobile SIM cards, and to show it at the SCALE Linux
expo here in Los Angeles back in February. Other than that, the
battery was never kept in the Neo when it wasn't in use, precisely
because of the power drain.
-id
Peter Rasmussen wrote:
So, what you're saying is that the platform we are using on the Neo
is not fit for a mobile?
