To make the OpenDDR artifacts, especially resource files available to
DeviceMap they have to be re-licensed. I trust e.g. Mark Struberg whom I
had a great discussion about issues DeltaSpike faces in Vienna can tell you
in greater Detail, but based on especially the question of using Material
licensed under W3C license as Source in the ASF repo as opposed to using a
binary lib (which is fine and done by dozens of projects;-) you may see why
only initial committers from the OpenDDR Team (myself and one or two
others, see the project page, I don't know who else technically became a
Committer by now, so I could be the only one) are eligable to relicense
that IP from OpenDDR license to Apache. Once it is here do and improve as
you like without violating any other legitimate claims but without acting
on behalf of OpenDDR or other licensors neither Reza nor others must
"Copy&Paste" or merge from the OpenDDR repo or a similar third Party;-)

I agree with you on all other Points, Thus leave them for those you hope
understand them to read and try act upon...
A few administrative items don't seem to work as transparently, e.g.
Eberhard and I still miss some roles in JIRA that Bertrand must have set up
ages ago (1y or more) but has since not Bern able to adjust. We can still
work on tasks, but they may not be assigned to the right Person or that
Person currently busy, on vacation, etc.

Same with the VM instance. It seems to be available to all committers, but
only two used it so far. If say a .NET equivalent existed, Eberhard should
be able to deploy, etc.

Even those with such access, especially Reza put multiple artifacts saying
"org.apache.devicemap" on their own private SVN repos or Servers. I trust
even incubating projects could provide a 'snapshot' or 'RC' download on
Apache.org, but nobody who has credentials did, or nobody except Bertrand
can at the Moment.

Cheers,
Werner
Am 10.07.2014 05:13 schrieb "Kevan Miller" <[email protected]>:

> I'd encourage everyone to get discussions moving on a positive note. We're
> seeing movement towards a release from the DeviceMap community. This is a
> good (and welcome) step forward for the community. Working through problems
> and disagreements in a positive manner, would be an extremely positive step.
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote
> :
>
>> The "official" release was broken, i.E. the version of the XML was wrong
>> not matching what the tag was intended to be, etc.
>>
>
> OK. So, discuss these problems with Reza and the rest of the community and
> see that they are fixed.
>
>
>> As mentioned, I am the person eligable to do this with the contribution
>> from OpenDDR.
>>
>
> Can you explain this? You are the person eligible to do what?
>
>
>> So please Bertrand, if there is a way to restrict certain users from SVN,
>> do this accordingly so that wrongful commits to this tree by Reza or others
>> cannot happen any more[?]
>>
>
> If you (or anyone else) feel that there are wrongful commits, please
> discuss the problems directly within the community. If differences cannot
> be resolved, there are mechanisms to address this.
>
> If you think community members are going to be restricted from SVN access,
> you are mistaken. It might be a good time to review how the ASF works --
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html
>
>
>> Also note, the parent hierarchy of the POMs is inconsistent. "classifier"
>> not only differs from  the POM artifactId (bad but if you don't want to
>> change it, keep it for now, just don't change the artifactId any more after
>> a release) it is an "orphan" without a proper parent[?]
>>
>
> Again, if there are problems or mistakes. Please identify them and work
> them out with the community.
>
> --kevan
>

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