On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Steve Langasek <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 03:02:32PM +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > On Fr, 2016-09-23 at 14:59 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
> > > I agree this isn't great; I wanted to mention an old but still
> > > working workaround: mDNS. Snapweb should publish a snapweb.local mDNS
> > > record on your LAN, so ssh [email protected] should work. Note that
> > > this only works for one device at a time, so you want to change the
> > > hostname to have e.g. rpi3-xyz.local.
>
> > and even better, it could run an open ssh login like d-i does (i.e. on
> > the NSLU2 images) where console-conf runs on for the initial setup.
> > i was wondering from the start why we dont do this and instead default
> > to physical consoles...
>
> Because the plan is for us to have 8 billion of these devices running
> Ubuntu, connected to the Internet, and mostly *not* having anyone claim
> ownership.  So you don't want an ssh connection open to the world where
> anyone with a snap store account can claim to be the owner of your device -
> or assume that all of these devices are firewalled.
>
> In one of our discussions, I suggested allowing such connections only from
> the local network.  That's trickier to implement than just turning on ssh,
> so not done yet.
>
> (And if it doesn't already, snapweb really ought to have the same ACL IMHO)
>

+1; I was thinking the same thing recently as snapweb was gaining more
features. It's already able to install any snap one likes, so it's quite a
permissive interface without auth already.

I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapweb/+bug/1627093 for us to remember
this

Cheers,
- Loïc


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