I would suggest against "Staying up as long as possible".

Unless you own a massive UPS designed for that - I prefer the total shutdown
in 2-5 minutes.

My rationale.

You stay on for ages (~30 mins) on your little AUD$500 UPS.

Power drains out - system shuts down.  Good.

Mains power comes back on.

System starts up.

Power goes out again !@$$!  - as the workmen try a few times to get the
power back online - with varying degrees of success - continued brown outs.
Mains power =could= fail again and again in a short period of time as power
grids re-align and power comes online and offline from anywhere in the
country (this is electricity - not water remember).  And the UPS may not
have enough power to start all the way up again and then shutdown cleanly.

This equals a problem.  With a short run time and with the UPS set to also
shut itself down and start-up when mains comes back online - with the Server
also set to turn on when mains power is returned.  The system/ups can handle
a 'bumpy' patch with adequate power to handle many powerup/power down
cycles.

=IF= the system was *so* important that it did need to stay up as long as
possible, you'd have hot swap batteries, onsite tech's, failover boxes in
different location, generators, etc.

Treat the UPS as a parachute for a safe landing and not some kind of
primitive plane designed to keep you in the air.  I don't think it works too
well that way - and I have my sky diving license (though it needs renewing).
:)


Cheers,
Richard.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Doerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gordon Rowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "e-smith-devinfo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] apcupsd


> > Out of interest, is there something which apcupsd does, which the
powstatd
> > module does not? This works for APC and non-APC UPS models.
> >
> > http://www.e-smith.org/docs/howto/contrib/UPSHOWTO.txt
> >
>
> I like the monitoring features through it's web interface, and use
> (internally) it's master/slave features to protect our production plus
test
> server with 1 UPS only.
> The test server will shutdown itself after 2 minutes without power so it
> doesn't take too much off the UPS to keep the production server going as
> long as possible.
>
> And I don't want to say anything bad about powstatd. I just started early
> with apcupsd and I am still happy with it.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Michael Doerner
>
>
>
>
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