> After a few days I Eventually got a callback from [Sun] regional
> manager Shawnee Williams. She said that it was allright if I created an
> installer which had JRE and its installer built in.
Yeah - pulling the 'with java' version of Freenet is over-reacting.
So what if it is not distributable by a third party - let them link to the
file on freenet.sourceforge.net - it's a good high-visibility server - no
actual restriction results from this.
As for indemnifying Sun against JRE misbehaviour - is this *really* such a
problem?
[the only thing Sun has a problem with is modifying or removing any of their
classes. The 'with java' version has all Sun's java classes intact, so is
fully license-compliant].
----- Original Message -----
From: "eric Kvam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mr.Bad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [freenet-devl] JRE License
> I actually called Sun a week ago about licensing JRE for something I'm
> working on. After a few days I Eventually got a callback from regional
> manager Shawnee Williams. She said that it was allright if I created an
> installer which had JRE and its installer built in, I did say that I
> wouldn't modify the original JRE installer but I got the impression that
it
> was allright either way.
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Mr.Bad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: May 1, 2001 6:57:12 PM GMT
> Subject: [freenet-devl] JRE License
>
>
> >>>>> "B" == Bad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> B> Also, IIRC, there are some redistribution issues with adding a
> B> JRE to your projects -- which is one reason that it's rare to
> B> see JREs included with Free Software projects.
>
> B> Has anyone checked this out yet?
>
> OK, I just did check it out, and I'm pretty sure that adding the JRE is
> very inappropriate.
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/j2re-1_3_0-linux-license.html
>
> Two things in particular bug me:
>
> * The package with JRE included is non-redistributable. That
> is, people can't download the exe with the JRE in it and
> post it anywhere.
>
> * We agree to indemnify Sun against any problems with the
> JRE. This seems totally reckless and stupid.
>
> I understand why there is support for having this in the distributed
> exe, but it just seems like a really bad idea.
>
> --NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--
>
> For this reason, I've deleted the *-withjava-* stuff from
> SourceForge. I've got copies and I'll put it back up if/when we decide
> to do so, but for right now it seems like a bad move to make.
>
> --NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--NOTE--
>
> ~Mr. Bad
>
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