On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:57:54AM +0100, Niklas Bergh wrote: > Maybe we should keep an pQR estimator in the routingtable?! We don't > have to use it for anything but it would be interesting to be able to > display graph.
Well, pSearchFailed is presumably dominated by QRs... > > /N > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Corson > > Sent: den 4 november 2003 05:25 > > To: Discussion of development issues > > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes > > > > > > Somebody wrote: > > >This strongly suggests that routing is not doing terribly great. The > > >suspicion is that there is some form of network > > fragmentation going on. > > >Ian refuses to admit the possibility of network > > fragmentation, so I am > > >wondering how to produce extraordinary evidence to support my > > >extraordinary claim :). > > > > so Ken Corson wrote: > > >Toad- just count the number of rejections experienced by a single > > >request as it is handled by Node. When you see numbers around 15-20 > > >retries (out of maxRoutingSteps), it will be crystal-clear > > why things > > >are smelling rather putrid :<( If that turns out to be the case. I'm > > >angling to earn some "developer" points, without yet writing > > any code > > >:) > > > > then Toad wrote: > > > So you are suggesting that the reason that routing sucks is > > that nodes > > > constantly reject 80%+? Perhaps you are right, but from what I have > > > seen the rejection is mostly because of bandwidth usage... > > is that the > > > consensus? Why do your nodes reject, people? > > > > Yes, this is what I am suggesting : > > If 90% of requests are rejected, everywhere... then the > > requesting node has to retry, using the "next-best" node, and > > then the "next-to- next-best" node, then the "notta-so-goodd" > > node, until finally, our request winds up accepted by one of > > the LEAST APPROPRIATE nodes. > > > > Remember how you "recently decided" to stop querying nodes in > > the wrong order, from worst to best candidate ? You know, > > that major bug you found and fixed around 6275 or so ? I was > > thoroughly impressed by, and grateful for, your discovery! > > ... which I jokingly termed the "Toad took his foot out of > > everyone else's mouth" event. Well, "IIITT'S BAAACKK... ," > > only in a better disguised form. > > > > The only reason any content is found and moves around at > > all, is because some small percent of requests actually > > arrive where they wanted to go in the first place. And users > > are kind enough to retry their requests 5 to 10 times to see > > if it hits something ... > > > > This is my theory, derived from watching everyone else and > > looking at my node's statistics. I hope this is useful and > > pans out. This just describes the problem. It doesn't offer a > > solution. But if it turns out true, i still want some points > > :) I'm just gonna keep bangin' on this QR-crap until someone > > convinces me to shut up. > > > > Ken > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Devl mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-> bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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