Re: [freenet-dev] Whose afraid of the big bad opennet?

[Ian Clarke]

On 15 Aug 2006, at 07:33, Jerome Flesch wrote: I really don't understand all of this fretting and hand-wringing about opennet.  Its basically nothing more than a vastly better way for people to do what they are already doing today with hideous (but regrettably necessary) kludges like #freenet-refs and http://refex.s- coding.nl/. But there are some differences: With an opennet: Imagine that a gouvernement, like China or France, decides to prevent the  access to the opennet: They would just have to fetch as many as possible IPs,  and then filter massively these IP (--> all the opennet and opennet/darknet  nodes). They would have no difficulties to do that with an opennet, they  could easily update their blacklist, and they could even find some unwise  Freenet users in their own country. I don't know if it's really possible in China, but it would probably be in  France if the gouvernement really want to. With a darknet: Firstly, people don't share their refs only on #freenet-refs, but also on  #freenet-refs, the Frost board "freenet-refs", and hopefully, in private. It would make an automatic process really harder to define. Rubbish, the current reference swapping mechanisms that people are using are all laughably easy to compromise.  Do *you* know who is running ubernode.org? Do *you* know who is running http://refex.s-coding.nl/ ? The opennet proposal is far from perfect, but there are measures that can be taken to make harvesting more difficult, and its decentralized nature makes it harder to compromise.  And of course, lets not forget the issues of user convenience and actually achieving a small world network topology, neither of which is provided by #freenet-refs or the other forums you mention. Ian. Ian Clarke: Co-Founder & Chief Scientist Revver, Inc. phone: 323.871.2828 | personal blog - http://locut.us/blog

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