On Friday 17 August 2007 07:19, Edgar Friendly wrote: > Matthew Toseland wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 August 2007 02:20, Edgar Friendly wrote: > >>>> Do you suggest that each established user create *cash puzzles, and > >>>> new posters choose one or many of these puzzles to solve in order to > >>>> get through untrusted/unknown-user-blocking so they can start to earn > >>>> trust? > >>> > >>> Yes. > >> > >> Okay, here might lie a hard part - if there's 100 established users, it > >> seems impractical to solve all 100 puzzles (although I admit it could > >> become necessary in order to find someone's to pay attention). How to > >> choose which puzzles to solve? Should a new user really be presented > >> with a list of 100 check-boxes to pick between? What information should > >> they have to make an informed decision? I guess puzzle difficulty > >> differentiates established users. What else? Could Frost to choose a > >> bunch of people at random, or even publish more and more solutions as > >> time goes on until someone evaluates the poster? > > > > I had thought Frost would choose some established posters at random, and > > use their puzzles. Each user's Frost would present the post, and if the > > user did nothing, the newbie would gain minimal trust from that user, > > which would be propagated. 3 established users shouldn't be a problem > > At the moment, I lean towards new users replying to posts by established > users. They would have some sort of *cash puzzle included in the post, > and the first reply containing a solution would bypass filtering and be > presented as a user looking for credibility.
IMHO it is essential that the replies be inserted into KSKs determined by the solution to the *cash puzzles. Thus they won't even be fetched unless the puzzle has been solved: no KSK-queue DoS. > The established user could > then give positive or negative trust (or 0.00 trust, not some small > positive amount), and publish his web of trust to a public board. Probably best to have a positive trust scale. > > > Publish it under their SSK somehow - probably publish a USK, refer to its > > current sequence number in their posts. The USK could contain: > > - A series of boards (encrypted so at least a dictionary attack is > > needed) on which the user has recently posted. > > - Current hash+think cash puzzles for each board. > > - Recent posters to each board. > > - Trust info (for each board?). > > - Puzzles for private messages. > > > > Okay, maybe this is too much. > > That does seem too much. I propose a simple system for the small > community we have now. As we outgrow it, we can learn from our > successes and failures to design the next system. The worry is that we need to be able to poll only those users likely to make posts to our specific subscribed boards.
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