On Thursday 23 April 2009 08:25:15 xor wrote:
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arne 
> > Babenhauserheide
> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:14 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills 
> > easy filesharing
> > 
> > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 18:26:05 schrieb Matthew Toseland:
> > > block [16:39:31] <toad_> duplicating the top block can be done with 
> > > SSKs very easily [16:39:40] <toad_> but with CHKs it requires much 
> > > longer URIs [16:39:43] <toad_> is that a problem?
> > > [16:40:04] <p0s> how much longer?
> > > [16:40:10] <toad_> CHK@<routing key>,<decrypt key>,<extra> -> 
> > > CHK@<routing key 1>,<routing key 2>,<routing key 3>,<decrypt 
> > > key>,<extra> [16:40:29] <toad_> i.e. at least twice as long
> > 
> > I stopped reading at about the middle, so it might be that I 
> > missed something, but why do you care if CHKs become longer? 
> > 
> > They are already so long that noone types them (I hope), and 
> > I really don't care if the key I copy-paste has two times the length. 
> 
> If they are exchanged via Freetalk it will bloat the messages.
> Further, I was told to implement CHK messages in Freetalk because messages
> could not fit into SSK. So now Freetalk uses SSK message lists to publish
> CHK URI of the messages... If the CHK URI become insanely long then the
> message lists will be bloated very much and maybe only five messages or so
> will fit into a SSK message list. Sucks.

No, this would not be normal CHKs, sorry. I'd probably call them DHKs. They 
would only be used for the top block of big files.
> 
> > They are longer than my browser window is wide, so I won't 
> > even notice it, if they become longer. 
> > 
> > And on freesites, we'll use links anyway, where the form of 
> > the URL doesn't really matter. 
> > 
> > So if only the key length keeps you from doing the right 
> > thing, just do the right thing anyway. 
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > Arne

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