On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Juiceman<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Zero3<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I just realized that we have a slight problem with offering to install
>> the tray manager through update.cmd.
>>
>> Users who install the tray manager in this way will have problems
>> uninstalling. Their uninstaller won't be aware of the tray manager, and
>> will therefore not shut it down before trying to delete the installation
>> directory. As the tray manager is executed from within that directory
>> and Windows doesn't allow deletion of a running executable, the
>> uninstaller will throw an "could not delete files" error.
>>
>> The error box will offer to retry, but the user probably won't realize
>> that he needs to manually shut down the tray manager first.
>>
>> Possible solutions:
>>
>> 1) Don't install the tray manager through update.cmd. Users will have to
>> reinstall to get the tray icon. Cons: We are leaving our current user
>> base behind (IMHO: very bad idea)
>>
>> 2) Warn user (upon update.cmd installation) to manually close it down
>> before uninstalling. Cons: The user will probably forget about it and be
>> just as lost when he finally uninstalls. (IMHO: not a proper fix)
>>
>> 3) Update the uninstaller in update.cmd as well. This raises the core
>> issue: That Windows installations soon will have different layout
>> because of the recent change from running the service under a custom
>> user to running under a standardized service user. That gives us 2
>> possibilities:
>>
>> 3.a) Add backward compatibility to the uninstaller. Cons: Will be a hell
>> to maintain an uninstaller that has to support all previous installation
>> layouts. The recent service user change has resulted in significant
>> changes to it already. (IMHO: an acceptable work-around, but is a PITA
>> to maintain in the long run)
>>
>> 3.b) Update the whole installation in update.cmd. This mainly involves
>> moving current installations away from the custom user and cleaning up
>> after the mess. Cons: Will require some work, and will require either an
>> UAC escalation helper executable for update.cmd or porting update.cmd to
>> real code that can escalate itself. (IMHO: the optimal solution long-term)
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> Juiceman, what are your thoughts on this? You are the update.cmd wiz.
>>
>> - Zero3
>
> There is no easy answer.  We don't want to leave users behind but we
> can't maintain backwards compatibility.
> 3a)  and I can have update.cmd download a version for these older installs.
>
> As far as migrating older installs, UAC does present problems.  I
> guess if you could make an UAC escalation helper to boost update.cmd
> that could work.
>
> Regarding porting update.cmd to real code, I could try to learn AHK
>

I have started looking into AHK, it seems fairly easy.  I already have
a UAC escalation helper figured out.
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