On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 01:31:51PM -0500, Evan Daniel wrote:
> (Copied from my latest flog post, since toad asked me to send a
> summary here.  If you want to read more about Freenet stats, I suggest
> you read my other posts.
> freenet:u...@gjw6stjzoz4oag-pqoxip5nk11udqzorozd4jld42ac,BYyqgAtc9p0JGbJ~18XU6mtO9ChnBZdf~ttCn48FV7s,AQACAAE/flog/13/
> )

Nice work on the statistics!

> Obviously, these classifications are very rough.  I'd say a 1:2:2
> ratio is probably a reasonable guess, but it could still be rather far
> off.  I need to take data more regularly and for a longer period of
> time before any serious conclusions can be drawn.  However, I am
> comfortable saying the following: Freenet has at least 4000
> semi-regular or regular users (probably meaningfully more).  Freenet
> probably has between 8000 and 12000 total users (the upper bound I'm
> far less certain of -- if a lot of people only run Freenet for an hour
> or two per day, it could be far higher).  At most, about a third of
> users run their node 24/7; the actual number is probably well under
> that.

One suggestion could also be to compare this to the statistics that are 
possible to count in central network locations: download servers and 
connections to seednodes (well, looking at one seednode is enough...). Could 
relating such counts to these stats could maybe make control them and make them 
more fine-grained? It could appear that it would be spying on users, but anyone 
who is paranoid should not run opennet anyway...

Cheers,
/V.


> I think this has several practical implications.  First, we need to be
> working on data retention more, with a focus on retention despite
> low-uptime nodes.  (See bugs 3495, 3514 for a start on that.  2933
> should also help.  3637/3639 and the like address more general routing
> issues; that should help as well.)  Second, we need to figure out how
> to get these low-uptime nodes back onto the network, *and connected
> usefully*, so that the data they have can be found (and to improve the
> performance for such users).  (See 3583 and related bugs for one
> approach.)  And, finally, we have the general problem of getting (and
> keeping!) more users.
> 
> Evan Daniel
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