So you're suggesting that someone else invests his time into switching the current code to experimental/inefficient algorithms in order to protect against something that *might* be a threat in the "next couple of years"?
I've got news for you: our current crypto is inadequate for dealing with threats that are real *today*. The plan is to deal with these first... and then maybe consider others. I am highly sceptical that we will have the resources and will want to pay the performance cost of switching to PQ-proof crypto in the foreseeable future. There might be limited area where we can do it (PQ- proof DH sounds like something we could do)... but no one is currently working on it. Florent On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 12:23 +0200, [email protected] wrote: > Okay, clarification: > I am not a programmer. > I suggest that the crypto, which is encapsulated in the Freenet core > layer ("fred"), > gets replaced with PQ Crypto algorithms by https://pqcrypto.org/ , > just as TOR is > doing the same by version 0.2.9.x , because fully functional quantum > computers > will lever out all classical crypto and are expected to be invented > in the next couple > of years. > > Greetings, > Torben Lechner > > > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > Von: Florent Daigniere <[email protected]> > Datum: 06.05.2016 12:02:22 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [freenet-dev] Post-quantum cryptography, was: Re: RFC: > My Web of Trust bachelor's thesis / developer's manual > > > > > I am not sure that I understand what you are suggesting here... > > Which part of the crypto do you want to change and why? > > > > Florent > > > > On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 10:29 +0200, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > Yesterday Whonix developer tweeted a sub website of Whonix where > > > Whonix and Tor position > > > to post quantum cryptography was briefly explained. The Tor > > > Project > > > > > > are planning to > > > migrate to quantum resistant ciphers by version 0.2.9.x – > > > currently > > > > > > the Tor Project is at > > > version 0.2.8.2: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/PQCrypto > > > > > > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > > > Von: [email protected] > > > Datum: 30.04.2016 02:00:05 > > > An: Discussion of development issues <[email protected]> > > > > > > Betreff: [freenet-dev] Post-quantum cryptography, was: > > > Re: > > > RFC: My Web of Trust bachelor's thesis / developer's manual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, April 30, 2016 01:20:56 AM [email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warning: Non-techie speaking. ;) > > > > > > > > > > Briefly seen through your work. > > > > > Regarding considering improvements for the future, maybe it's > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > idea to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also concider the prospect of exchanging freenet's/WOTs > > > > > crypto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algorithm > > > > > > > > > > with post-quantum cryptography solutions figured out by > > > > > pqcrypto.org > > > > . It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably won't make the used algorithm process faster than > > it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now, > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would highen the user's tolerance for waiting relative long. > > Then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > users > > > > > > > > > > would thing 'gosh, that lasts long, but hey, it's quantum > > secure, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you want...'. I mean we have the year 2016 now and reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > australia present the prospect of 2018 to be the year in > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > universal quantum computer will be ready. > > > > > > > > > > Here's a great introduction video for what pqcrypto is doing > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make > > > > sure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll also have secure systems when the era of universal > > > > > quantum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > computers > > > > > > > > > > starts. Title: djb, Tanja Lange: PQCHacks > > > > > Video link: https://youtu.be/-LlkJZJ5DMQ > > > > > discription: A gentle introduction to post-quantum > > > > > cryptography > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a talk of the cutting edgy group working on securing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working > > > > crypto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in post-quantum era (starting btw. 2018-2027). A lot of smart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heads > > > > meet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every year for this and this talk sums up the status quo, > > gives a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > preview > > > > > > > > > > into the future and provides useful information for > > > > > implementing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practical > > > > > > > > > > (but not optimal) post-quantum cryptography solutions right > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most recent infos of pqcrypto: Their 2016 conference, which > > took > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months ago - https://pqcrypto2016.jp/ > > > > Thanks! WoT does not do any cryptography at all, crypto is > > > > fully > > > > > > > > > > > encapsulated > > > > > > > > in the Freenet core layer ("fred"). I currently do not > > work on > > > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > Thus, if you want to get this noticed, you should start a > > > > separate > > > > > > > > > > > thread. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Devl mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Devl mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > [email protected] > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
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