-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 December 2001 08:44, you wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:31:55PM +0000, Timm Murray wrote: > <> > > > The problem is that this creates a point of centralization, though > > centralization is inheirant in NAT and there is probably no way around > > it. > > > > <obvious type="blatent">We need IPv6</obvious> > > Seeing IPv6 as a panacea to this problem is delusional. If network > operators wanted the computers inside to be reachable, they could simply > map a couple of ports on the firewall to each machine - but the culture > is that having reachable clients causes problems at no gain. > > What would help if is users started excercising power over their ISPs > and net admins rather than vice versa, but whose gonna bet a cent on > that happening anytime soon...
AFAIK, ISPs don't usually use NAT, they give you a few dynamically asigned routable IP numbers. At least that's what my ISP does. Most ISPs will also have very leniant firewalls (just blocking a few ports like SMB so you're not sharing your hard drive with everyone and causing broadcast storms over a dial-up link). Where you are going to see NAT is in corperations (of all sizes) and medium to small-sized Universities. The corperations are going to have a big, ugly firewall that doesn't let anything in, in which case Freenet probably won't work anyway unless someone gets in good with the right people. Universities will probably act a lot like ISPs. Big Universities sit on the bloody backbone, so they don't block anything and may have a block of class B or even A addresses. - -- Timm Murray - ----------- This message has been encoded ROT26. Decoding is punishable by death under the DMCA. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwREocACgkQqpueKcacfLRCpwCeKBiAtcw10JZjzs1oP0rixF7O /2cAnj/RyPDxnQm1gxAWi88ytktE6jxO =DgU0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl at freenetproject.org http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devl
