On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 01:06:02PM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 03:42:39PM -0400, Gianni Johansson wrote: > > > > For PR purposes, we need to decide which day we will do the 0.5 release. > > We should not decide release deadlines based on PR concerns. > > I am not deciding a release deadline based on PR concerns, I am deciding > to have a release deadline based on PR concerns. OK. Set it when all the platforms are reasonably OK. This means _after_ the weekend's mangling of the windoze installer. So if the windoze installer seems to work and oierw claims to have fixed the major issues, and enumerates them, then set a deadline on monday. Please do not talk to the press before that point. > > > We should do the release only after the code is stable. The only way to > > know > > the code is stable is to test it. > > This is exactly what we have been doing for the last 15 days. > > > I would suggest at a minimum, *after* the Windows installer is working > > perfectly we freeze CVS, bump the minimum build number to force all > > non-release candidate nodes off the network and test for at least one week. Current minimum build is 514, which is about pre3. > > Two would be better. > > The Windows installer is irrelevant, it has its own release schedule. Aha... so we'd be doing a unix/geek-only release if the wininstaller isn't ready on schedule? > > > There two things that I want to get in before a freeze: > > 0) Cleaner handling of undecodable splitfiles in the fproxy SplitFile > > downloading ui. Good idea. Not a release blocker. > > 1) Update the FEC code in freenet_ext.jar to use the onionnetworks 1.0.3 > > release which has full source for all support libraries. The changes > > between > > 1.0.2 and 1.0.3 are small. The output should be bit-for-bit compatible so > > this shouldn't be a disruptive change. Good idea. Not a release blocker, but it would let us bundle freenet-ext.jar if we wanted to. > > > > I should be done with these by the end of the weekend. OK. > > If they can be suitably tested by wednesday, then do it - if not, wait > until 0.5.1. I agree with this. > > > I wouldn't even consider making announcements to press until after we have > > tested for at least a week. We have been testing it extensively. Even most of the windoze bugreports are cleared up now. > > We have been testing for the last 15 days. > > > > Getting good PR coverage is essential, > > Hyping freenet is a bad idea. When it works well people with tell other > > people about it and the userbase will grow organically until journalists > > start to call you. > > Don't be dumb - more users means more testing and more donations. More > donations means that we can pay Matthew to work for longer, and that is > good for the project. > > > > as it will lead to wide > > > deployment and more donations > > !!! > > We should not be manipulating press coverage to make money. > > That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say. Granted I have a vested interest in this (but financially it makes little sense given what I'm paid), but I have to agree with Ian. We are not doing anything immoral unless we ship a compromized build in order to manipulate the media in order to make money. That we must not do, for the sake of our userbase, the network and our credibility in the eyes of potential donors. So we do a release without the windows installer, if we need to. The node is fine, it's not absolutely perfect but it's better than 0.3. > > > Are we really short of money? If so just put a request on the > > freenetproject.org site asking for donations. I would be surprised if > > you didn't get whatever is nescessary. > > We will, it will be part of the 0.5 release. Good. I would be available for another stint if you get the cash together. > > Ian. > > -- > Ian Clarke ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] > Latest Project http://cematics.com/kanzi > Personal Homepage http://locut.us/
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