To quote myself from the 2nd of October: --- The criteria for a 0.5 release needs to be a stable datastore - no more and no less. If we start saying "ooh, just let's add this feature" we will always be two weeks away from a release, but never actually get there.
If people wish to fix other stuff before 0.5, then they are welcome to do it (provided that the stuff they add is sufficiently trivial that it won't require weeks of testing), but we can't add new preconditions for release, the last precondition we added was an encrypted datastore - and that delayed us by 18 months! To those who don't see the urgency - please remember that the current stable release of Freenet is 0.3 - that is technically the release we should be recommending to most users. Hands up anyone who thinks that we should be recommending 0.3 over the current code in CVS (lets say after Matthew has had a few days to work out any remaining DS bugs)? --- There wasn't a single word of disagreement in response to that statement, and the criteria I outlined, a stable datastore, have been met. It is a fact of life for software developers that any deadline is too soon, but unless one is decided upon, and an ambitious deadline which forces people to sit up and take notice, we will never get this release out and start work on new features. Ian. On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 05:33:40PM -0500, u Uler wrote: > Wouldn't everybody be happier if you gave them more time to think about > things? We all want 0.5 to come out, but what is the hurry? > > Right now, we could decide on a date. The date can be one or two weeks > away, but it will be a fixed date. Everyone works towards that date, and > there are no surprises. > > If the windows installer is not done by then, do not release it with > 0.5, but at least that gives everyone some time to test the release > candidate and work everything over. > > How about November 1. It's a Friday, so everyone can go out and have a > bear after the release. I know it seems like a long time from now, but > that will build up the suspense, right? (That's a joke) > > Whatever you decide, good luck with the 0.5. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: devl-admin at freenetproject.org > [mailto:devl-admin at freenetproject.org] > > On Behalf Of Ian Clarke > > Sent: Saturday, 19 October, 2002 16:18 > > To: devl at freenetproject.org > > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 0.5 release - Wednesday > > > > > It is my understanding that the mozilla project does *exactly* what > > > Oskar suggests (with the exception that their check-in freeze > periods > > > are a *month* now). > > > > So whenever a bug is discovered during that time, the clock is reset > to > > 1 month from that time? I doubt that very much. > > > > > You also mention in another post that the windows installer is > > > largely irrelevent. While I am no fan of Windows and don't run it > > > myself, that is a very foolish thought process. The installation > > > process is a major part of any release. > > > > My point is that it isn't a blocker. > > > > > Talking to people that used to use Netscape, Netscape's premature > > > release of 6.0 has done more damage then good. It doesn't take > > > much for people to turn away from a product. Netscape learned > > > their lesson (that they had forgotten). So should Freenet learn > > > from other's mistakes ... we don't have to make them all ourselves. > > > > Firstly, Netscape 6.0 wasn't a beta, Freenet is. The last stable > > release of Netscape actually worked, unlike Freenet 0.3. > > > > Explain why we should continue to recommend 0.3 as our stable release > > when it doesn't even work any more, and current CVS is infinitely more > > stable? > > > > Is that fair to our users? > > > > Ian. > > > > -- > > Ian Clarke > ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] > > Latest Project > http://cematics.com/kanzi > > Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > devl mailing list > devl at freenetproject.org > http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl -- Ian Clarke ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] Latest Project http://cematics.com/kanzi Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20021019/4d732be8/attachment.pgp>
