In message <20021020030518.GB19768 at amphibian.dyndns.org>, Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> writes >On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 01:23:22AM +0100, Roger Hayter wrote: >> In message <003801c277bf$9856cf00$0100a8c0 at cyr>, u Uler >> <uler at radiks.net> writes >> >Wouldn't everybody be happier if you gave them more time to think about >> >things? We all want 0.5 to come out, but what is the hurry? >> > >> >Right now, we could decide on a date. The date can be one or two weeks >> >away, but it will be a fixed date. Everyone works towards that date, and >> >there are no surprises. >> > >> >If the windows installer is not done by then, do not release it with >> >0.5, but at least that gives everyone some time to test the release >> >candidate and work everything over. >> > >> >How about November 1. It's a Friday, so everyone can go out and have a >> >bear after the release. >> ^^^^ >> In this country, a domesticated ungulate would be a more conventional >> choice. >> I agree about the timescale though, and we should all be asked to use >> the release candidate rather than/as well as the latest snapshot until >> then, apart from testing the windows installer. >Uh, what's that supposed to mean? If you haven't been keeping up with >the pre series, you're an asshole. And it's certainly not mine or ian's >fault that you haven't.
Well, I've tried pre1-5, and reported to the list which ones (2 out of 5) actually work here. But if we had a release candidate that was actually fixed for a week or so there would be time to run it for a few days, and check the installation process a few times, maybe try it with a different JVM etc. >> >> >> >> >I know it seems like a long time from now, but >> >that will build up the suspense, right? (That's a joke) >> > >> >Whatever you decide, good luck with the 0.5. >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: devl-admin at freenetproject.org >> >[mailto:devl-admin at freenetproject.org] >> >>On Behalf Of Ian Clarke >> >>Sent: Saturday, 19 October, 2002 16:18 >> >>To: devl at freenetproject.org >> >>Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 0.5 release - Wednesday >> >> >> >>> It is my understanding that the mozilla project does *exactly* what >> >>> Oskar suggests (with the exception that their check-in freeze >> >periods >> >>> are a *month* now). >> >> >> >>So whenever a bug is discovered during that time, the clock is reset >> >to >> >>1 month from that time? I doubt that very much. >> >> >> >>> You also mention in another post that the windows installer is >> >>> largely irrelevent. While I am no fan of Windows and don't run it >> >>> myself, that is a very foolish thought process. The installation >> >>> process is a major part of any release. >> >> >> >>My point is that it isn't a blocker. >> >> >> >>> Talking to people that used to use Netscape, Netscape's premature >> >>> release of 6.0 has done more damage then good. It doesn't take >> >>> much for people to turn away from a product. Netscape learned >> >>> their lesson (that they had forgotten). So should Freenet learn >> >>> from other's mistakes ... we don't have to make them all ourselves. >> >> >> >>Firstly, Netscape 6.0 wasn't a beta, Freenet is. The last stable >> >>release of Netscape actually worked, unlike Freenet 0.3. >> >> >> >>Explain why we should continue to recommend 0.3 as our stable release >> >>when it doesn't even work any more, and current CVS is infinitely more >> >>stable? >> >> >> >>Is that fair to our users? >> >> >> >>Ian. >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Ian Clarke >> >ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] >> >>Latest Project >> >http://cematics.com/kanzi >> >>Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ >> > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >devl mailing list >> >devl at freenetproject.org >> >http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl >> >> -- >> Roger Hayter >> >> _______________________________________________ >> devl mailing list >> devl at freenetproject.org >> http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl >> > -- Roger Hayter _______________________________________________ devl mailing list devl at freenetproject.org http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
