At 10.49 21/10/02 -0700, you wrote:

>On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:04:59AM +0200, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
>> Consider this; when all agree that the objective is to release
>>  Freenet to the general public, you seriously said that a
>>  well-behaving windows installer was unimportant for the relase.
>
>No, I said that the Windows installer shouldn't delay the release, and=20
>that it would be absolutely ridiculous if it did

It is exactly what I undestood; in your opinion is ridicolous wait
 for the wininstaller, in my opinion is ridicolous announce 0.5
 without it to anticipate the release few days.

It is a matter of end users consideration, as one years ago for
 the 0.3 drop.

Anyway, this problem now is history, the installer works great
 and we all need to plan for the future, not discuss the past.

I'm waiting for wednesday !

>> When trying to have a general agreement on the (revolutionary)
>>  fact to have a release date for Freenet, you seriusly decided for an
>>  overall scheduling of 5 days for the whole thing.
>
>No, actually I pointed out the need for a release date, and - having
>checked with Matthew Toseland first, suggested Wednesday.  Since then,=20
>Oskar and Matthew discovered some significant bugs which had to be=20
>fixed, so we agreed on next Monday instead.
>
>Please don't be so presumptuously critical when you don't know all the
>facts.

For sure I'm critical, but I don't think to be presumptuous; I have
 access to maillist & freesites, and obviously those are all the info
 on which I can base my understanding.

Five days to a release are IMVVVHO, a really, really too short timeframe
 for the release of any code, not only for a complex one like Freenet.

In a cooperative environment like our, driving changing
 direction with sharp turns is by far not the best option.

I can understand and approve the need for a quick release, 
 non for a as-quick-as-we-can one. Few days more after
 one and half year of waiting are unimportant; the risk of
 miss the general public releasing a code that 90% of people
 cannot use is by far worst.  

Borrowing from Lucas, "Don't underestimate the power of
 a big user base"

I speak for myself, but there is no intention to discuss
 your leadership, just the correctness of some practical
 decision, that can be wrong as happen to all us.

Here in Italy we say something that translated sound like
 "The path that goes to hell is made of good intentions"

Don't be so nervous.  We all works together.

Have a good day.   Marco


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