On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:11:00PM +0200, Mika Hirvonen wrote: > Scott Miller wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0500, zbalevsk at bridgeport.edu wrote: > > > >>The caches as they are now are designed to store only the 20 most recent > >>submissions, the number could be decreased to 5 for example. Also, they > >>can run > >>only in the few days after announcing a new release in order to help new > >>nodes. > >>After things stabilise, they can be shut down, assuming that we disable > >>the > >>cache annoucnement code in order to retain control over who runs them. > >>If a new > >>node can't connect to any of its bundled caches, it will just download the > >>references from hawk as before. > > >You do realize that the biggest problem with a centralized or > >semi-centralized directory is that each Freenet node now has to contact > >it, which gives you a centralized place to watch for the creation of new > >Freenet nodes. > > Directories like these were used back in the 0.3 days, and I thought > that announcements and distribution servlets were supposed to make these > obsolete? > > Currently, one can get the distribution zip from a friendly node with > some known good references, install the node and have it announce itself > to the nodes listed in the seednodes.ref (from the distribution zip). > Announcements draw traffic to the node, and the node learns more refs as > more and more nodes connect to it, integrating it to the network. It has > no single point of failure and scales well.
The problem is that it scales agonizingly slowly, because nobody knows anybody with a freenet node. It only works if either users don't mind trusting total strangers (other than us), in which case a lot of them will be rooted via bad JARs etc, or if they know somebody on freenet who won't root them with it. Until we have critical mass, 99% of all introductions will be through the central web site. It's as repulsive to me as it is to you, but it's life. > > -- > Mika Hirvonen <hirvox at welho.com> > http://nightwatch.mine.nu/ -- Matthew Toseland toad at amphibian.dyndns.org/amphibian at users.sourceforge.net Full time freenet hacker. http://freenetproject.org/ Freenet Distribution Node (temporary) at http://80-192-4-36.cable.ubr09.na.blueyonder.co.uk:8889/NZtBAIGOWnU/ ICTHUS. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20030310/4c776485/attachment.pgp>
