I have no objection to asking the user, provided that it is clearly apparent to users that unless you know people already running Freenet, you need to go with opennet or Freenet will be useless to you. I'm all for letting users make an informed choice, but I'm certainly not in favor of corralling them into choosing darknet only to get completely stuck because they don't know anyone that currently uses Freenet (this will be the case for the vast majority of users if we ever experience the growth we hope for).
Also, are we using the terms "opennet" and "darknet" in the user interface? I hope not, because these terms will mean absolutely nothing to users not already familiar with Freenet. We must never forget to try to put ourselves in the shoes of a fresh user, and we must avoid assuming that users will understand, or want to understand, internal freenet terminology, no matter how familiar those terms might be to us. I think the decision to use "friends" and "strangers" in the UI was a good example of opting for terminology that new users will understand intuitively. Ian. On 7/19/07, NextGen$ <nextgens at freenetproject.org> wrote: > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2007-07-19 21:58:28]: > > > On Thursday 19 July 2007 18:16, NextGen$ wrote: > > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2007-07-19 12:16:48]: > > > > I'm not convinced it should just be a default. > > > > > > Huh ? isn't opennet useless if it's not the default ? I'm really > surprised > > > that someone (you in particular) objects here :) > > > > > > > Can't we explicitly ask the user a yes/no, maybe during the > post-setup > > > > wizard? > > > > > > Yeah, it could be done in the wizard... shall I revert the changes ? > (it > > > has already been deployed and the current installer is setting up > opennet > > > by default) > > > > Yes. Opennet is such a hideous security risk that we should definitely > ask the > > user, with no obvious default. > > I won't need to be asked to do it twice :) it has been reverted in r14195 > and > I'm currently rebuilding the installer. > > NextGen$ > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > -- Founder and CEO, Thoof Inc Email: ian at thoof.com Office: +1 512 524 8934 x 100 Cell: +1 512 422 3588 AIM: ian.clarke at mac.com Skype: sanity -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20070719/b6796a60/attachment.html>
