On Friday 20 July 2007 00:14, Ian Clarke wrote:
> I have no objection to asking the user, provided that it is clearly
> apparent to users that unless you know people already running Freenet, you
> need to go with opennet or Freenet will be useless to you.

That's the idea. That's the whole point of opennet.

> I'm all for letting users make an informed choice, but I'm certainly not in
> favor of corralling them into choosing darknet only to get completely stuck
> because they don't know anyone that currently uses Freenet (this will be
> the case for the vast majority of users if we ever experience the growth we
> hope for).

Agreed.
>
> Also, are we using the terms "opennet" and "darknet" in the user interface?
>  I hope not, because these terms will mean absolutely nothing to users not
> already familiar with Freenet.  We must never forget to try to put
> ourselves in the shoes of a fresh user, and we must avoid assuming that
> users will understand, or want to understand, internal freenet terminology,
> no matter how familiar those terms might be to us.
>
> I think the decision to use "friends" and "strangers" in the UI was a good
> example of opting for terminology that new users will understand
> intuitively.

Okay, so what should this question say then exactly? Perhaps:

"Connect to strangers?

Your node can either automatically find untrusted nodes to connect to 
("Strangers"), or you can manually add connections to trusted nodes 
("Friends") run by people you already know. Connecting to total strangers is 
far less secure, but it means your node will start working immediately, 
rather than you having to find some friends to connect to. Even if you do 
enable connecting to untrusted nodes, you should try to get some friend 
connections when your friends start using Freenet.

Button: Connect to strangers

Button: Only connect to friends"

I'm a bit worried about the severely informal language we have to use, but 
it's better than freenet jargon, and the whole friends list thing is pretty 
universal post-AIM anyway.
>
> Ian.
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