Nonetheless the general thrust of Jusa's argument was that there is no point having darknet. He's wrong. Opennet is a means to an end, not the be all and end all.
On Thursday 07 June 2007 22:34, Ian Clarke wrote: > On 6/7/07, Florent Daigni?re <nextgens at freenetproject.org> wrote: > > * Jusa Saari <jargonautti at hotmail.com> [2007-06-07 23:23:48]: > > Implementing a workaround (opennet, backtracking, ...) is only a way of > > fixing temporarily the topology to the expense of both liberty (it has > > to be the default behaviour as you pointed out) and safety (everyone > > knows that the opennet approach has design caveats). > > > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" > > -- Benjamin Franklin > > Your use of the Franklin quote suggests that you are looking at this > backwards. > > The alternative here is not between users using an opennet or a > darknet, its between them using an opennet, or another solution that > is far worse (such as a public proxy). This is the simple reality of > the situation that we see time and time again whenever we bother to > listen to our users. > > Consequently, by giving people the option of an opennet, we aren't > inviting them to give up liberty, we are inviting them to increase it. > > Most sane people think teenagers should have access to condoms, but > some people think its a bad idea, claiming that giving teenagers > access to condoms will encourage them to have sex. The point, > obviously, is that teenagers will have sex anyway, the only question > is whether it will be safe sex. > > Substitute opennet for condoms, and darknet for abstinence, and you > see that many of those arguing against opennet are following the exact > same wrongheaded line of reasoning as those that disagree with > allowing teenagers access to condoms. > > Ian. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20070608/389709ee/attachment.pgp>
