On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:56:11PM +0000, Thomas Bruderer wrote:
> > Locations are swapped on 0.7, fairly frequently.
> I am aware of that, but I won't analyze theoretically the implication of 
> this. I
> will start with a stable Network which fullfills the Small World Topology.

Ok.
> 
> > Right, in darknet Sybil isn't an issue unless people are stupid, no?
> This will be one of the questions to be answered, however this is already one 
> of
> the more difficult ones. What happens if not you are stupid, but your 
> neighbors.
> If you have a ring-topology you can answer this quite easily. other topologies
> will be much more difficult.

I'm not sure what your definition of a Sybil attack is. (See below)
> 
> Maybe I can answer that after formalizing the network behaviour.
> 
> > > However also in Darknet its possible to do Sybilattacks, one trusted link 
> > > to
> > > a "Sybil" is enough... however this leads to Network parts not very good 
> > > connected to the rest. This leads to some ideas to prevent this. 
> > I don't understand. Sybil = creating lots of bogus identities.
> Yes

Please explain what your proposed attack is.
>  
> > The most you can do on darknet is get a small number of connections to a 
> > small
> > number of nodes and then pretend to be a much larger number of nodes -
> > which isn't a big deal.
> For swapping this will be a big deal, this will also be a big deal for the
> keyspace they will have under their control.

Okay, you can attack the swapping algorithm, yes. We need to figure out
a way to secure it in the long run. It would be interesting to explore
what the possibilities are for attacking it.

One thing which is a given is that in 0.8 we will implement premix
routing and in order to do this we will need to expose a large chunk of
the local network topology. Maybe this could also be used for swap
enforcement.
> 
> Thomas
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