* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-12-12 00:06:31]:

> On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:46, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> > * Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> [2008-12-11 19:18:30]:
> > 
> > > > Disadvantages:
> > > > - Have to do some work on emu.
> > 
> > That alone is a good reason why *not* to do it. I don't see why
> > installers should be auto-built nor built from emu for that matter.
> 
> I believe I and Zero3 have given several reasons:
> 

Right, but none of them is valid or worth considering whereas the
caveats are real. Not to mention that here we are talking about doing
additional work changing the *current behaviour* which has proven to be
working.

> > > ADVANTAGES:
> > > - Security: Once you have obtained the installer, somehow (over Tor, from 
> a 
> > > friend, etc etc), you can run it without needing to fetch it from the 
> > > website. People in hostile environments won't accidentally fetch the 
> > > wrong 
> > > version of the installer over Tor and then run it and reveal themselves. 
> And 
> > > us having less idea how many people are running it is arguably an 
> advantage.

We do have a solution for those users: we already have an offline
installer. Here you and he are suggesting to make what is currently a
special-case the default installer on the basis that some users might
gain some security out of it. It's insane.

> > > - Performance: The actual installation should take less time to complete.

Why? You can get a slow mirror and download slowly your bigBundle from
it... or get all the packs you need from different (possibly using
parallel sessions - we don't do that atm) equally slow mirrors.

> > > - Simplicity: It would reduce the number of stages in the install, 
> especially 
> > > for non-IzPack installers.
> > >   

Lucky us, we currently have only one installer.

> > + removal of the website as a Single Point of Failure.
> 

Again, we already have an offline installer.

I'm not against improvements: I'm against unnecessary, unjustified
 and probably dodgy changes.
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