On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Victor Denisov <vdenisov at redline.ru> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > | consider a migration seriously. If it was up to me, we would use Trac > | and only Trac (for the website, wikki and bug-tracker). > > A quick vote of confidence for Trac. It's a *very* good piece of > software, and its Wiki<->Tickets<->SVN integration is amazing. We've > used it for three major projects now and had nothing but *very* positive > experience.
Trac isn't a bad bugtracker, probably better than Mantis, although has some conspicuous limitations, such as no dependencies between bugs. That being said, I don't think Trac is designed to be a CMS, and frankly I don't think its appearance is enticing as a "user facing" website, its even worse than the current Freenet website. If we did use it, it would require some major re-theming. I think we should look to commercial and well-funded open source projects for inspiration about how to make our website enticing for first-time visitors, while still providing the depth of information we need to convey. http://getfirefox.com/ is good because its colorful, inviting, and the "call to action" is very clear, you don't have to spend much time looking for that download link! Now, its tone may be a little too in-your-face for Freenet, but there are things we can learn from it. I'm a big fan of David Watanabe's work, both the software he writes, and the websites he designs for them. I'd recommend looking at: http://xtorrent.com/ http://www.inquisitorx.com/safari/ http://www.acquisitionx.com/ You could argue that all of those things have it easy, because most people understand what those things do, they don't need an elaborate explanation. But look at Gnome's website: http://www.gnome.org/ It is clean, simple, yet if you need to you can quickly dig down to a vast wealth of information. Either way, since we are Java hackers for the most part, not web designers, I strongly recommend that we borrow as much as we can from elsewhere, even so far as using free or creative commons HTML and CSS verbatim, perhaps with only a few minor changes. Ian. -- Email: ian at uprizer.com Cell: +1 512 422 3588 Skype: sanity
