On Friday 16 May 2008 15:21, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Colin Davis <colin at sq7.org> wrote: > > I can certainly understand where you're coming from, and agree that it > > would be ideal, but I don't think that Freenet is ready to be promoted > > by application development.. Currently, when Freenet makes a new > > revision, that hits Slashdot, Reddit, etc, and encourages people to > > download.. A new revision of Frost/etc doesn't make a blip, and > > certainly doesn't spur much action. > > But the same argument could be used in my Java analogy. Java has a > far higher profile than many apps written in Java, but it doesn't > follow that Java should bundle all of these apps.
It's still a bad analogy. There are thousands of java apps. > > > The second problem is that Freenet, unlike the JVM, requires direct > > interaction.. After downloading Freenet, users should (ideally) add > > Darknet links, configure cache sizes, etc. > > I believe all of this functionality is exposed via FCP, so the client > app could expose it to the user in a manner which makes sense for that > client app. > > > Further, the JVM doesn't load > > and consume resources when it's not being used directly by a program.. > > Freenet nodes work better when they're running 24/7, so we want people > > to leave Freenet running, even if their client-app isn't. > > That is fine, it can be installed as a service while the client app is > installed as a client app. > > > If you did want to push Freenet-the-service, rather than > > Freenet-the-program, I'd suggest that for the late .7 and early .8 you > > continue the focus on making the install simpler.. For example, the > > project could create a Freenet-for-embedded.zip, which defaults to > > opennet only, auto-detects it's IP, and joins the network when the .jar > > is run, rather than asking the user any questions. > > Well, I've been describing Freenet as a platform since around 1999 - > there is nothing new about this. I think we do need to do some work > to make Freenet more easily embedded, possibly as you suggest. > > > Also of interest is the http://java.com/en/ page.. It uses a big > > download button, similar to Firefox, but also spends a significant > > amount of realestate on the page showing people what they can do using > > Java. Freenet could create a similar page with links to prominent > > Freenet applications for quick download directly from the website.. > > Doing this would lend some of the media coverage and promotion that the > > project is generating now, onto the applications. > > I agree that we should certainly direct user's attention to the > various client apps, as Java does. Many of them don't even have webpages. > > Ian. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20080516/62726bfe/attachment.pgp>
