On Friday 16 May 2008 22:09, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Colin Davis <Colin at sq7.org> wrote: > >> Why are you so obsessed with turning us into Sourceforge for Freenet > >> apps? If we are successful there could be hundreds of apps, there is > >> no reason for us to host all of them - that is rediculous. Let them > >> use sourceforge, or google code, or set up their own website. > > > For the same reason, I suspect, that Apple is hosting a page of Mac > > Applications, and heavily-pushes third-party applications in it's retail > > stores, and the same reason that developers around the world are excited > > that the iPhone will have a built-in appstore. > > You may not have noticed, but we have slightly fewer resources than Apple. > > > Distribution matters. Users don't buy/install a product because of it's > > inherent properties, they install it because it solves a need. > > Freenet/Fproxy alone don't solve very many people's need, but Thaw, > > Freemail, etc are services that people find useful. > > Exactly, which is why Thaw, Freemail, etc are the apps that will > motivate users to use Freenet. Only developers download the JRE, most > users get it bundled with Java apps. The same will be true of > Freenet, its a platform, most end-users don't want platforms on their > own. The solution is *not* to bundle, that is just pretending that > Freenet is more than it is.
We have a lot of traffic from wikipedia. We have a lot of traffic from slashdot. For a user to even understand what Thaw is he must first understand what Freenet is. Thaw, Freemail, FMS and jSite, don't have any sort of web presence right now. Freenet is not the same as Java. It's a bad metaphor. Maybe it would be a better metaphor if any major freenet client had a web presence and significant hits of its own, but none of them do. AND WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THEM TO GET ONE, for much the same reason that we couldn't wait for FMS to release 0.7.0. That means we have to do what we can for *our users*, which means making it as easy as possible to get these client applications. > > Ian. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20080517/e13f48f1/attachment.pgp>