* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-09-24 20:32:16]:

> On Wednesday 24 September 2008 20:19, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-09-23 01:45:10]:
> > 
> > > On Monday 22 September 2008 20:30, Zero3 wrote:
> > >
> > > I really don't understand why creating a user - a measure which is solely 
> > > intended to improve security by not having Freenet run as System - causes 
> > > concern for so many windows-using geeks. You can't log in as that user, 
> and 
> > > thus it isn't visible on the login screen. And it's standard practice on 
> > > unix. And it improves your security against a hypothetical exploit in 
> > > Freenet. WHY IS THIS BAD? Having said that, it does seem to cause some 
> > > installation failures, so maybe we should turn it off. However, running 
> > > as 
> > > the installing user isn't straightforward, we'd probably end up running 
> > > as 
> > > System. Nextgens???
> > 
> > Running as the installing user isn't an option unless we ask him for his
> > password AND store it in cleartext in a file... or we don't use the
> > windows services at all.
> > 
> > Running it as System is what we have been doing before you pushed hard
> > on me to find a solution to
> > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1231
> > 
> Well, the biggest problem IIRC wasn't the security issue but the fact that a 
> service running as System can't be killed from Task Manager.
> 
> As you say, we can't run as the installing user...

Well, we can! provided we don't use the windows services at all but a
shortcut in the startup menu or something like that... but we don't want
to because that's user-specific. We want to maximize the uptime of
nodes, not to restrict it to the timespan a specific user is logged on
the system.
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