On Monday 27 July 2009 12:32:22 Luke771 wrote: > Zero3 wrote: > > Luke771 skrev: > > > >> Jonas Bengtsson wrote: > >> > >>> As part of my master-thesis "Growing secure peer-to-peer networks" I > >>> have created a facebook plugin that allows a user to share his darknet > >>> node reference with facebook friends > >>> > >> bad idea IMHO > >> > > > > I think it is a great idea really (and one often requested, > > nonetheless). The whole idea of the darknet is that you exchange > > references with your friends, and so far Freenet has absolutely failed > > at making people do just that. > > > > A plugin that somehow imports/exchanges/syncs/... friends between > > Facebook (probably the greatest WoT on earth) and Freenet might just > > help build the darknet we need. > > > > > My 'bad idea' comment was based on the assumption that people would add > "just about anyone", pretty much the same way as they make "friends" on > Facebook.
I disagree. Casual acquaintances are quite acceptable for darknet. What is not acceptable is repetitive, possibly automated harvesting of anyone who happens to be online at the time with no expectation of ever seeing them again. > > <user A> wanna be friends? > <user B> sure > <user A> added > <user B> added > > This is exactly the kind of behavior that we have been trying to > discourage ever since Opennet was implemented. > > On the other hand though, people DO exchange darknet refs with strangers > all the time, the ref exchange boards are still going strong despite all > the attempts at hammering some sense into a certain kind of user, so a > facebook plugin wouldnt make things any worse than they already are. Well, we can tell people they are shooting themselves in the foot, but we can't prevent them from doing so, especially if there is a performance advantage (there is some anecdotal evidence of this). > > If we're lucky, adding "kinda-friends" from Facebook would at least > partially replace the current practice of adding total strangers from > darknet-refs boards, which is a step forward. A small step, but in the > right direction. > > I would recommend to add a warning, kinda like "only add people that you > can actually trust", even though I'm fairly sure that users would ignore > it, just like they ignore the warnings in the FProxy interface. > > This "bad vs. worse" thing is kinda depressing. Hopefully Freenet will > expand beyond the "geeks only" stage, so we can see how it works with > people who actually have friends. :) > In the same continent. Not necessary. Well, with uptime issues it might be. But geeks have high uptime. > That they have met in person. Definitely not necessary. > (within the last 2 years? am I hoping too much?) Neither is this. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090727/0ed9414f/attachment.pgp>
