On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Ian Clarke <ian at locut.us> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Evan Daniel <evanbd at gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Ian Clarke <ian at locut.us> wrote: >> I think having professional UI design help on Freenet would be >> wonderful. ?It's obviously something most of us are bad at. >> >> Is she going to be available to support the code in the longer term? > > Unless we get divorced she'll be within nagging distance for the > foreseeable future ;-) > >> Personally, I think that's a bigger concern than getting it written in >> the first place. > > Well, my hope is that she will get the ball rolling with a framework > and a set of UI conventions, that others can then expand upon. > >> Obviously I can't speak for others, but I suspect a lot of the >> resistance to this comes because you seem to be presenting it as a >> fait accompli, not something open for discussion. > > I'm sorry if it appears that way, but this has been discussed > on-and-off for quite a long time. ?Normally stuff only gets done with > Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it. ?Sitting around waiting > for permission rarely gets anything done.
Well, merely looking at your recent emails, it looks (to me) more like you've decided what we're doing, whether others like it or not, rather than starting work and asking for input. Waiting for consensus before doing anything is silly, but so is completely unilateral decision-making. I think the issues so far are more ones of perception than anything else. I think you should go ahead and start a development branch based on the pdf you posted, and let people try it out. I'd far rather offer comments on a UI than on pictures. Also, you should let your wife talk to us :) I'd rather hear what she has to say directly; there's no point in playing Telephone here. > >>?What sort of input >> does she need from us? ?I know you've asked for some in the past, but >> it's been a while. ?Personally, I'm happy to offer some input, but >> would find it easiest if she has specific questions of limited scope, >> and could then follow up with more, rather than starting with a large >> and open-ended request. > > Well, I think feedback along the lines of whether you think the > mock-up is a good direction or not would be helpful. > > UIs are hard to design by committee. ?They require someone to plant a > flag in the sand, and then others can offer their feedback and > suggestions relative to that flag. ?That is what we're trying to do > here. I don't think the mockup is complete enough by itself to offer meaningful comments. I think to make meaningful comments, I would want to see either something functional but incomplete, or a mockup plus whatever design documents accompany it. I presume this is based on something like a set of user stories; seeing those would be helpful. Evan Daniel
