2010/11/10 Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>

> On Saturday 06 November 2010 19:39:09 cvollet at gmail.com wrote:
> > 2010/11/6 Ian Clarke <ian at locut.us>
> >
> > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Matthew Toseland <
> > > toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Awesome. I'm having difficulty viewing the svg's due to local
> technical
> > >> problems. It might save me time if you could post JPEGs or something?
> > >>
> > >
> > > +1 for jpeg or png, I've tried viewing these in several different apps
> and
> > > they look screwed up in all of them.
> > >
> > > Yep, dunno why I didn't do that directly... (and svg should open fine
> in
> > inkscape).
> > Anyway, see attached.
>
> Ooooh, interesting.
>
> Thanks, wasn't sure it would be appreciated.

> First, IMHO passwords should be optional. Maybe even configurable based on
> initial seclevels. We are not going to have separate client layer databases
> for each user, since we want everyone's downloads to work simultaneously -
> and most nodes will have one user, who may have multiple accounts for e.g.
> different chat pseudonyms. If passwords are disabled, we can have a simple
> dropdown login.
>
> I'm not sure we should allow password-less accounts, maybe it makes sense
for users who don't really care about their anonymity though. We should add
a warning if they want to have a non protected access to their account.
Regarding the one-account/one-client-layer I agree. But one user shouldn't
be able to eavesdrop another user's download.

What do you mean by dropdown login? If it's presenting user with different
possible login, I disagree, we should let the browser manage that. Like in
linux, if you don't know the username, well, too bad. Or, we could add
another layer => account => identity. Dunno if it makes sense.

> Second, I like the idea of having a traffic light for darknet vs opennet vs
> connection problems. I'm happy to defer to folk who better understand
> usability on how to deal with system notifications, just as long as we do
> deal with them.
>
> I don't have in mind any notification that can't be addressed to a specific
group of users. Do you have something in mind. (btw, and I don't know why I
didn't ask before, nor why I do ask now, but if someone could forward this
mockup to FMS/Freetalk/Frost, and have feedback from community (even if this
doesn't concern the apps currently covered by the mockup), it would be great
:)

> I like the idea of searching forums, mails and friends. This implies adding
> more functionality, of course... A publish-to-friends files list, Freemail
> with a web interface and searching, and searching in Freetalk, and a way to
> tie them all together. Also eventually we will have WoT-based search - we
> still need to solve the "darknet friends" versus "anonymous friends" naming
> issue.
>
> I let that to native english speaker ;)

> I'm not sure how much social-style functionality we want at the darknet
> level, since it's only visible to our friends? Although it might be
> propagated further configurably if some users wanted that? Not sure whether
> "user groups" makes sense...
>
> Well, the idea behind user groups is to allow pure-darknet users to use it
event if they don't want to use WoT.
For instance: I use darknet, I use WoT because (fill in a reason), but I
still want that some informations I provide are relayed by my friends only
(or the friends of my friends, etc.).

I have one problem though. How can we identify a darknet user who don't want
to use WoT but who still want his darknet "account" to be secure (i.e. I'm a
darknet user, but I don't want that people having access to my computer
being able to access my freenet session)?

> For anonymous WoT-based peers, we need a profile page for each of the peers
> on the WoT, with trust levels, applications, any social stuff they publish
> etc...
>
Is that a problem? (I'm asking seriously, I don't have any idea)
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