On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Ian Clarke <ian at locut.us> wrote:

> This is great Michael!
>
> What will the "output" of your work be?  I'm guessing an academic
> paper that will be published?  Do you have a professor supervising
> your work?
>

The output of my work will be simulations of the attack against some
potential countermeasures as well as a paper. I do have an advisor
supervising the work but I'm sure I'll be reaching out to the the community.



> I'm happy to provide feedback on whatever you produce, just let me know.
>

Will do!


>
> Ian.
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Michael Grube <michael.grube at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Created a stand-in Wiki page. You'll be able to track all of my progress
> > from here.
> >
> > https://snark.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W1
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Michael Grube <michael.grube at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Tried creating a Wiki Page, had the same problem Ian described.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Michael Grube <
> michael.grube at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ian,
> >>>
> >>> I've actually made a commitment to do this and will have to complete
> this
> >>> task to graduate from college ;)
> >>>
> >>> That means I'll be done before May and will start in about 2 weeks. Of
> >>> course I can start sooner than that, but something else is gripping my
> >>> attention at the moment.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 25, 2011 3:21 AM, "Ian Clarke" <ian at freenetproject.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> What is the latest status of addressing the "Pitch Black" attack
> >>>> described here: http://grothoff.org/christian/pitchblack.pdf ?
> >>>>
> >>>> I understand that the basic idea is to counteract the clustering by
> >>>> periodically randomizing node locations, and Oskar's refinement to
> >>>> this is to pick a key randomly, route for it with a special query that
> >>>> returns the nearest node identifier to the key found. If the closest
> >>>> you can get is much further than your distance to your neighbors, give
> >>>> up your current position for the random one.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this the latest thinking on this?  There was talk of working on a
> >>>> paper which describes this solution and validates it.  Is anyone doing
> >>>> this?  Is anyone interested in doing this?  Unfortunately at the
> >>>> moment the attack remains unanswered in the academic literature, and
> >>>> it has already caused at least one of our papers to be rejected.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ian.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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